Who's riding with fused vertebrae?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by NoTime, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. badlandstom

    badlandstom Adventurer

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    First to John, my other half just walked by and asked me when I had the photo taken? (It was your post) Same GS and white helmet! Then I let her read your post- "Gee, kind of like how you felt last night after replacing the hydrant and fixing the float on the stock tank! You guys are all the same!" Now that's a compliment! Just finished my morning walk and third cup of coffee and now its riding time.
    And to Mark... Strange but none of my replacement parts are due to bike crashes. Just "life", first knee blew out from a bad landing during a training exercise when I was wearing Uncle Sam green. I've lead a most adventurous life. Construction work, cowboyin', oil fields, and years as an investigator all had some rough and tumble times. Running a trap line as a kid and being a canoe and hunting guide- along with a few miss placed hammer swings and ornery cows all add up to a whole bunch of arthritis. I've known my doctor since he was in high school and he knows me. All I can say is "use it or lose it" is pretty spot on. Even that's a fine line though. Too much to soon can set you back also. "overdo it and you'll be recovering in a nursing home" was the phrase that finally got through to me. Take it slow, buy the big bottles of Ibuprofen, and focus on the fun factor. Only you can decide if its worth it or not. All the best to both, but Im "burnin' daylight" and there couldnt be a more perfect day for riding!
  2. John Havilah

    John Havilah Been here awhile Supporter

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    To Badlandstom,

    I noticed that Madison is the lutefisk capital of the U.S. If your significant other is Norwegian than we have even more in common. I wear the Norge flag on my left arm and U.S. flag on. my right. Funny that she thought the photos were of you. I hope the ride was fun, I cannot wait to get my motorbike back. While we are still having warm afternoons, the mornings are just fantastic. I am just so very ready for summer to be gone. Way too many fires this year and its just been too stressful, thank god for my getting the bike for riding and for just keeping my thoughts diverted from wildfires every so often. Here's a couple of photos from 5 weeks ago:
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    This is my first sober fire season and sober close fire, needless to say it has taken its toll. I never realized how much easier fires are when you are popping a few cold ones, and then a few more...and more. Thankfully that long period of my life seems to be over and I may have actually survived those years of my life.

    For Mark - My parts and rather serious spine issues are due to a variety of factors, I too have the cowboyin' factor, but I worked in an office so I did the ranch life in some tough country on weekends for 20+ years and that took a big toll. We took 80 acres of raw land and made something of it. I also had a fun childhood, lots of long distance cycling, racing, one day century rides and touring. I also spent a lot of time back in the 70's skateboarding empty swimming pools, flood control channels and homemade ramps in Southern California. Add to that lots of backpacking in the Eastern Sierra's and a certain summer in the 70's that we spent doing nighttime canoe surfing in the Hermosa Beach shore pound. Well, as a result of all this fun living I ended up with some benign tumors on my spine that required removal and a 3 level fusion. That began a progression into a thing called failed back syndrome and eventually what is now an 18 level spine fusion.

    Oh, I also blew off my thumb, index and middle fingers on my left hand while doing an early grade school era experiment with some homemade devices. Thankfully that only affects my ability to hang onto my left handgrip and my dreams of being a famous classical pianist and hand model.

    I will echo Badlandstom's wise advice to please take is easy and heal before you push yourself too far too fast. I'm a casebook example of how not to do it and I'm not kidding when I say I almost didn't make it back through my journey. All I've ever done in my life is push too hard too fast. It ruined a lot of things in my life and hurt a lot of people who cared about me. While you might say "yeah, but see you made it through, just do it" I say B.S., I was just lucky, plain and simple. I could just as easy be dead or watching TV all day and night. It's easy to brush off things and talk tough when you are living but when you are dead you are dead and your only claim to fame is silence, and maybe a few nice words about you on Adv.

    I'm looking forward to another ride when I get my bike back from the shop. I truly wish you the best on your journey and in healing body, mind and soul and continued riding. I also hope that if I said anything out of line or offended you in any manner you will please accept my sincerest apologies.

    John

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  3. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades... Super Supporter

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    There was discussion of doing cortisone shots, but my response has consistently been, "I can live with pain. It's God's way of saying back off a notch or to get things fixed." I am more concerned about being disabled by knee problems that I did not take care of soon enough. That is what happened with my father, taking cortisone shots to deal with the symptoms instead of fixing the problem. I can live with pain, I want the doctors to fix the problem.
  4. Madman4049

    Madman4049 Been here awhile

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    Two level lower back spinal fusion for me last Nov, L4-L5-S1 coming up on a year now. Still quite stiff in the mornings or when stationary ie poolside chair for a while. Been riding for a few months big bumps still have a good jolt of pain think my off-road days are done and I'm a road tourer now but yes I ride.
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  5. glory racing

    glory racing Been here awhile

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    Found this thread late so sorry if a repeat. Had 2 disks in my neck sucked out and the 3 verts screwed together. No issues after 30 years except I can't ride a supersport because i can't comfortably raise my head up enough to see down the road.
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  6. Baroquenride

    Baroquenride Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives.

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    Found this thread and will read through it later. Facing some choices regarding disk fusion. Scary, but so was my PRK and it turned out amazing. Bummed about the potential loss of yet another riding season. Sigh...
  7. Clem Fandango

    Clem Fandango Been here awhile

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    I had C5-7 fused about 20 years ago, which has limited my range of motion a bit but that's about it. I assume another neck injury from a crash would be less than fun so I just don't think about it. I did add an air bag vest with neck support to my kit a while back though.
  8. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades... Super Supporter

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    C5-T1 done in 1990, been riding since. Have a Leatt brace for dual sport/off road. Limited motion a bit, shrank by about an inch in height, but no other problems. I sure hope I don't crash with a neck injury, any higher and it's quad or dead.

    At this point, with a screwed knee and fighting with BWC about what should be done, I'm more at risk walking and going up/down steps if the knee gives way and I don't catch myself. This is now an every day several times a day occurrence. Sorry I ever reported the accident on the job. Would have done far better paying the deductible and doing insurance.
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  9. pops

    pops Long timer

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    Near 10 years after my back was operated on.Still having issues.
    Riding is good for the mind, but the suffering during and after a ride is becoming a pain, Mentally .
    Small rides, with plenty of rests riding my sidecar, is my limit nowdays.
  10. blacloaktree

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    Saw this thread and thought I'd share my experience. I have spinal stenosis and in the last year had a lumbar spine fusion plus two disks, and a cervical fusion plus a disk. I really don't have the endurance to do motocross anymore, but BDR rides and single track on my KLR, I can do. I'm not as aggressive on the KLR on single track, but I can still hang. I was back to full riding condition three months following surgery. I did ride sooner than that, but only on the street. I waited six weeks for that. Tried my KLR off road at week 8 and decided that was a bad idea. I find I need to wear a simple back brace ($20 kind) and take a few more breaks. A little MMJ at the end of a ride helps too. But it's possible to get to 90% to where you thought you were. Do the PT, and remember it's all mind over matter. If you don't mind, it don't matter.
  11. SilentRay

    SilentRay Wheres that go Supporter

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    65 y/o . 3 discs in my back fused. 2 discs in my neck fused. Both hips replaced. Both shoulders need rebuilding. Right one has a torn rotator cuff. Arthritis and doing stupid shit while I was young .

    Still riding but less the last few years. Dirt riding for hours is rough on my neck so not doing much of that.

    Ibuprofen after bfast helps through the day and keeps the inflammation down. Plan to continue riding as long as possible but my favorite bikes now are lighter and lower seat height.
  12. boomsling

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    L5-S1 fusion in 2012. No problems riding.
  13. marret

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    My situation is not as severe as some, but I have C5 to C7 fused. Doctor wanted me to stop riding, but I said no and we agreed to wait a year/until the fusion was filled in solidly. I hate to say, but I had a serious motorcycle accident about 3 years later where I actually flipped and ended up on my feet. Hit my helmet on the ground. No neck issues though. That said, now I have C4-C5 and at C7-T1 spinal cord compression with right hand problems that also require fusion to correct.

    I still ride, but the nerve issues in my right hand, impact of long days in the saddle, and these days more nerve issues in my right foot due to lumbar spine problems make riding multiday long distance rides more painful. So I have decided not to do traveling by motorcycle any longer. I do have some other issues as well that contribute. I am in my early 60s as well, just switched to a scooter.

    One thing about fusion, at least for cervical fusion. The fusion creates a non-moving section in the spine that increases friction at the joint above and below. So as stated above I now have spinal cord compression above and below the point of fusion and have additional deterioration at those locations. I get popping in my spine at those locations sometimes. Seems like a never ending problem. My fusion experience is only with the cervical spine.
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  14. SilentRay

    SilentRay Wheres that go Supporter

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    Neck and back fused , hips replaced , carpal tunnel surgery both wrists . Both shoulders are shot and full of arthritis with the right one needing a full reverse shoulder replacement.

    Still riding but limited gravel miles and no serious off road / trails .

    Stubborn I guess but I still enjoy it . So if the pain gets to be too much Advil / Ibuprofen helps ... some .
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