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Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by BlackdogADV, Nov 22, 2009.
No but I hear of people upgrading a Buell by buying a BMW....
Sure, lots of folks swap 06 and later seats, buy low seats, modify their seats, and buy other seats.
Holy crap where can I get one of those? That looks comfy !
33 K on the stock seat.
And stock windshield.
Guess I have a fat ass
(and I'm used to a KTM off-road seat)
104,387 miles on my `94 R1100RSA with stock seat. About half two-up. Any number of 900+mile days. A little over 60k miles on my son's `02 R1150RSA with stock seat.
One man's trash is another man's comfort.
Many of the aftermarket seats I've seen on Beemers are bragging points...
One day last week I did a shade under 600 road miles in one hit (stopping only for fuel) on my F800GS, over a time of about nine hours. I walked a couple of miles fine as soon as I got off the bike and had no cramps/aches the next day. My bike has the stock BMW seat. I am now really struggling to justify the cost of the Sargent seat that I had planned.
Almost all motorcycle seats are designed by "stylists" not engineers, with a common objective - it simply has to look good on the showroom floor.
I have a Russell seat on my R1200RT and had a Sargent on my R1150RT before that. The answer to your question is...if BMW had to make a comfortable seat, it would add considerable manufacturing cost to the bike and we'd moan even louder over the price of BMWs. So instead, we get a pile of cheap foam that looks good. It's form over function...in its purest form.
that's the 10 million dollar question.
all mfg are guilty. maybe they all have a cousin who own an aftermarket co.
all the mfg have to know about these companies and what they produce.
they also have to know these seat are designed differently & are desired, thus they are doing something wrong. maybe one day someone will just buy sergant outright or at least have then design the seat. in the end it's about saving $ on the stock seat.
sargent can make a mass-produced seat that works for most.
granted they need to round the sharp edges on the 800gs, but they have a track record of producing a sculpted product that works well for most ass shapes (& then produce 2 heights for leg legnth).
it can be done.
thats the bmw comfort seat
From BMW ?
Why didn't they put that dam thing on the bike instead of the rubber covered cardboard?
I admit I like my Sargent, but it doesn't look as good as the stocker. And, it seems, we agree it is about looks with most factory seats.
once it's under yer ass all looks are off.
If BMW, Harley and whoever made a good seat, there would be no Corbin or Sargent.... it's a vicious circle and it's our job to keep those guys in the money
RE: BMW COMFORT SEAT FOR THE F800GS
After a lot of looking around, I have seen one article in the BMW Motorrad News (UK) and two forum posts about this seat, but they all say the same thing - no information on price or availability. If anyone out there has more information, please share it here. Thanks.
I havn't seen a seat I could sit on since my old Yamaha DT-1. All my early bikes had good seats, all my newer bikes have horrible seats. And I'm sure it's NOT me or my age.
max bmw lists the part number but no price--give them a call ukgsers say a couple guys checked them out check there too
My problem with the stock seat is the slope/angle. My body wants to slide forward and my cheeks are staying put, so it pulls on the cheeks and wraps them up in a knot.
This seat looks like the slope is about the same, like they just built it up in the back.
I carved out about an inch where I sit, and dished it some. Put the stock cover back on - it stretches when I sit on it. Looks fine too.
For all being basically the same animal we apparently have major differences when it concerns our asses. The stock seat on my 1200GSA sucked. The passenger seat sloped forward so radically that my wife spent most of her time smashing me into the tank bag. I ordered a Seargent and waited a couple months for it to show up. When it showed up I was impressed with the shape and finnish, it looked great. Test ride time...WTF...knees are almost into the tank and a sharp pain across my butt. Wife loved the angle and shape of her half except for the extremely hard and sharp corners that started cutting into her legs....1000 mile test and back into the box it went. Back to stock for me and I built a saddle out of closed cell foam for her that attached over the stock rear seat. Then secured an appointment for a custom seat from Mr Ed's. Got the custom seat built last saturday so function and beauty are back in harmony. What a bunch of dicking around after buying such a great bike. I also ride a XR650L with a stock seat and have loved all 12000 miles so far. I did remove the stupid strap across the seat. The stock seat on my KTM 450 however was designed by the Marque de Sade and thusly earned itself a place on the shelf...Don't the Europeans ever sit on their own products....Ok done ranting...less typing more riding.
Good point here. everyone's ass is a bit diff. The seat on my 03 1150 GS treated me well up to about 300 miles then my tailbone began to beg. The Seat on my 08 piece of shit 1200 GT started hurting around 250 plus it did not protect from the heat of the engine. Man, I did not like this bike. I digress. traded the GT in for a 09 GSA. Seat was better than the 03 GS but I rode on my brother in law's 05 GS with a Rich's or Rick's seat and my back and tailbone were happy with that. I can still stand up on the pegs and I find 400+ plus days easier. 64 years old 5'10 31 inseam and 185 lbs. When I can afford it I will get a seat that will get my tailbone beyond 500 mile days easily. Right now, the stock seat kills me after about 500-550 miles.