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Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by nitsuj, May 2, 2019.
Nice one, you had me cracking up reading it.
I was one of the moaners regarding the small fuel tank since I came off of a 2010 GSA onto a 2012 PP Multi. Flash forward and I have the Enduro Pro now. Love the range and power as a combo. The bike is heavy but I did not purchase it for single track woods riding. Forest service roads at the most. Had an oil leak straight off the showroom floor that took 3 different trips into the dealer but it finally got sorted. All good now. Looking to have a long term with this bike.
I was just sitting down to write a review now that I've spent a little time on the bike. Short version is I really love it. I'll start a new thread for my review.
Since these are pretty available....I was originally just looking at the Multistrada but the Enduro has a bigger tank correct? Would I be completely crazy to want one of these for on road only?
Nope. Not crazy at all. I’m loving mine. Let’s face it, most of us do most of our riding on the street. And most of us won’t be slowed down in normal street riding by a 19” front wheel. I prefer the look of the Enduro. I like the larger tank and I like the Touratech aluminum bags. The seating position is slightly more upright and my wife found the seat to be more comfortable. I wouldn’t mind the single sided swing arm for easier maintenance, but whatever. Little more time in the garage is ok too. To be clear, had I chose the S I’d probably also be happy. Both are excellent bikes. But the Enduro is just a little more what I want right now. Get the one that speaks to you. Can’t go wrong.
That bigger tank is great for a road machine. I told a friend recently that the enduro is an ultimate road machine....
with that range (I’m getting 40mpg minimum, and up to 45mpg at times) from the big tank, the power, comfort, the whiz bang tech stuff, and the need to not worry about water spotting the chrome (like on a cruiser), it’s perfect as a road warrior. The ability for gravel and lighter off road is bonus.
Y'all hit the mark spot on with this machine. My buddy and I both have an Enduro and we both love them. We got them a few months apart and purchased from the same dealership in Portland, Or yet we both live in Phoenix AZ. All that means is that when we purchased them, we had a reason for a road trip!
When I purchased mine, I gave my buddy my '12 MTS 12000S to ride to Portland and I'd meet him there to ride back. We loosely planned our return journey along the 1 and 101, camping and enjoying the twists. During the ride, he rode my new bike and had to have one, so we made the same plan... he bought his in Oregon, rode my bike up and I met him in Portland. We did our second ride down the coast, camping and enjoying the ride!
Since then, we've taken them places I would have never thought a big bike could go. One rock garden in particular was super bad. First gear, trials style riding and the bike handled it so well, I was amazed! I've since been back on that rock garden road on my dirt bike and still am amazed that we had big bikes on that trail. Conversely, it's easy to knock down miles on pavement. We've done an 1100 mile day... while we were both tired, we both could have kept riding. The Enduro truly is a swiss army knife of the bike world. Where it really shines is for the aggressive road rider that wants to camp and do a bit of off roading. It'll jump speed bumps in a parking lot and cattle crossing equally as well. It'll support 2 up for date night or date trip and has the room in the paniers for both people. It has enough power to embarrass most bikes. It has handling that allows you to carve corners along with much 'sportier' bikes, surprising them at the end of the canyon. Yet it still returns 45ish mpg and casual road manners that allow you to arrive at a classy restaurant or a backwood camp site in equal amounts of 'yes, I belong right here'. We're both crazy happy with the performance, comfort and reliability of our hot italian GFs.
The reason why these forums are so helpful is that someone can post and over a year later someone else with a very similar situation and interests can be helped through their decision process. Now that some time has past, has your decision to buy the Multi Enduro stood the test of time? Loving it or are you riding something else?
I am an old guy wanting to forget that I am old, and return to my dirt riding roots. My wife and I will be using the adventure bike to do probably 65% road, 35% fire road and some more challenging off road maybe. I am 6'3 ish (shrinking as I age) and 250, wife is 5'7" 135 ish.
I am trying to decide between a KTM adventure 1290 R or S or a Multi Enduro 1200 or 1260.
The easier button to hit is the KTM R, but there is something about owning my first Ducati, always wanted one, always nervous about reliability and maintenance costs.
Any words of wisdom would be helpful. Definitely in the analysis paralysis mode for the last year or more. Can't seem to pull the trigger.
Maybe think about a good clean 1290 SA-T. I'm 6'5" and always wanted a Duc. But they seem to be better suited to shorter folks. Sat on a multi before buying an SAS and it was still the cramped, sitting "in" position. So I opted for the KTM. Just like when I was drooling or the Hypermotard back when, then after sitting on one, bought a 950 SM.
I've got a 950 with all the Enduro add-ons. I haven't done any single track with it, mind you...but on Forest Service Roads and on pavement, it's an absolute blast to ride. I actually prefer the smaller tank on my bike as it helps reduce weight up top. I have no problem lifting the bike up by myself. And honestly, 113 hp is "enough" to get jiggy with it in the twisties and it's enough for when my wife jumps on the back.
Thinking along this line my wife and I have been on a Stelvio for 8 years and have done the kind of riding you describe. Now at 63 weight of machine, 650, plus Mrs...130, me 225, some luggage starts to count up so I have actually decided to move to a KTM 890. KTM has matured and realized a smooth engine with torque is a good thing with excellent MPG. I am saving 200 lbs. Still have 5 gallons. I will keep the Stelvio for now as it is a hoot to ride but just thought I would give you the thoughts that have been running through a like minded individual.
Loads of forum fodder on that topic... fun stuff, and heavily “covered”.
My less-than-.02 cents is that I’m a huge fan of the 1200 enduro. Magnificent bike. Only complaints are related to when I try and think of it for what’s it not (for me... speaking ONLY for me): it’s not a dirt bike, and not even good for more technical 2-track, in part because it’s just too heavy, and partly because I can’t let go of the subliminal thought that if I drop it in a bad spot it’ll take a couple big guys or helicopter to lift it. I don’t mean from a street tip-over, which is fine, but if it goes over an embankment or that kind of thing.
That said, at 6’3” I find it as comfortable as my old harleys, nearly as fun as a track bike, great for forest svc roads and the gravel road and steep gravel driveway I live on, and has outstanding fuel range.
For going further off road, just that next step toward more challenging off road riding (but still nowhere near what i’d do with my WR450), I love my ktm 990adv. I don’t like how front-heavy it is, but soon as I adjust my riding style a bit after saddling up, I remember how much I love it. It’s a good chunk lighter than the 1200 enduro, and I think lighter than the 950 Duc (which I don’t own but would like to). LC8 comes up a little short compared to the Desmo in my opinion for road riding, but it’s still sweet.
I have a '16 enduro and am properly beating it up on single tracks, so I can only confirm that this bike can do things most people wouldn't take a 500 on. And of course way beyond anything I could ever do. Haven't really had any issues reliability wise. I've blown front fork seals, but that is very much not unique to the multi. After 20k miles I replaced the clutch slave cylinder.
I do most of the maintenance myself, only bigger things like the valve clearance checks I let the dealer handle. Those are expensive (1600 for me last time), but they are only every 19500 miles (I think the interval got even longer on the newer models? Someone with a newer one can confirm/deny that), so it's not like it's a problem.
The one thing that is always a problem with these bigger bikes: you tend to eat through rear tires rather quickly