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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Blakduk, Jun 20, 2020.
Yep. No Dunlop Trailmax Mission I’m told. (Was going to try a rear).
Wonder if he gets any bubbles in the front brake hose with the reservoir tilted over so far ?
He maybe tanned a bit, but I think he's white...
mine are the reverse atm cause I keep moving my bars. No issues… yet.
Thread revival ... has this situation reversed? Are people selling the bikes purchased on government handouts or superannuation withdrawals?
Going by the WR/DRZ Thermometer probe....Hells no it's not reversed, as for how others purchased flapped if I know, it's not a metric I care for tbh.
Friggin prices have gone through the roof, pheww.
But lucky Phil, Has someone got a deal for you....
Seriously, as Covert kickoff to now.. yeah 20/30per cent increase in second hand motorcycle prices, no doubt.
Sadly, bike prices are only reflecting what is happening in the general economy. Australia, along with many other western nations, is caught up in massive stagflation (stagnant wage growth combined with hyper inflation).
Believe me when I say it does not bode well for all but the top 0.5%.
Yup - if you're an asset holder you're made......... if you're not..... you'll never catch up no matter how hard you pedal.
My daughter and her partner bought a 6 month old caravan, and a second hand pajero in 2019, with the intention of spending 6 months touring the north of Australia in 2020.
2020 was out, but they got away for 5 months this year between lockdowns.
The intention was to sell the rig, when finished, which they just have, making $5500 profit, 2 days after advertising it, with about 10 potential buyers (usual scam replies, but weeded those out).
Money now in the bank, so covid inflated prices definitely have not given way to sense yet.
Not bikes but relevant.
LandCruisers lead the surge in second-hand vehicle values
/ By Angus Verley
Posted 1h ago1 hours ago
People are paying more than the recommended retail price for LandCruisers due to stock shortages.(
Supplied: JP Engineering
If you spend much time perusing second-hand vehicle sites, you've probably noticed an explosion in pricing, particularly for LandCruisers.
There's been a surge in used vehicle values
LandCruisers have experienced the largest jump in second-hand vehicle values
Valuer Simon Cotter says the trend is being driven by buyers "building their escape vehicle"
It's a reversal of the long-held rule of thumb that vehicles lose 20 per cent of their value in the first year, and 10 per cent thereafter.
The bizarre situation is yet another symptom of COVID disruptions, which is affecting both vehicle manufacturing and shipping.
Valuer and former director of Auctioneers and Valuers Association of Australia Simon Cotter said some new vehicles had waiting lists months long.
"It's a supply issue, it takes about nine months to get a dual cab 79 series GXL," he said.
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"They're $86,000 recommended retail and you will see them in the Toyota dealerships second-hand for up to $105,000, and people are paying that money, and they're paying that money because they don't want to wait."
Mr Cotter said LandCruisers had experienced the biggest jump in value because of their reputation for reliability in an uncertain time.
This HJ47 LandCruiser is 39 years old, but it's still worth good money.(
"They have this reputation of reliability and consistency, so you're buying a dealer network and you're buying that folklore, that legend if you like," he said.
"The factory turbo diesels just fetch drug [big] money, because that motor is a particularly good motor and you will see a million kilometres out of those engines if their oil is changed regularly."
Mr Cotter has personally been on the end of the bidding frenzy for LandCruisers.
"I had a GXL 200 series for three years. I paid $92,000 for it, did 70,000 kilometres in it, and sold it for $88,000, and probably today I would make money on it," he said.
"Then I bought a dual cab GXL 79 series with a bit of gear, I paid $86,000, I was offered $95,000 by a Toyota dealer."
Mr Cotter said there was a huge demand for the vehicles from the farming and mining communities, but buyers from other markets had shown increased interest.
"One other thing driving prices is the recreational market. There are lots of people sitting around, twiddling their thumbs because of COVID, and they're building their escape vehicle," he said.
"A lot of these vehicles have a lot of optional extras and they go completely nuts. They put coil spring rear ends in and all sorts of things.
"In a traditional sense you would expect depreciation on those products, but they're getting their money back if they sell, so you're talking up to $160,000, $170,000."
There's a nine-month wait for new LandCruisers, and that's making older models more attractive. (
ABC Rural: Angus Verley
Second-hand prices rise across the board
Mr Cotter said it wasn't just second-hand LandCruisers experiencing a rise in value.
"It's occurring in other areas as well, graders, loaders, etc. There has been probably an increase in values of maybe 10 per cent, because you can't buy them for immediate delivery," he said.
"It is something that's occurring across the spectrum, but not as strongly as with the LandCruisers. If other products have increased by 10 per cent, we're talking 20 per cent or more with the LandCruisers.
"You can ask [for] more than retail [prices] in the used [market] and people who are desperate to buy one today will pay it."
I ordered a new Ranger last week, delivery due 31/03/2022!
Last Thursday on a spur of the moment decision I put an ad on Gumtree to sell one of my cars because my wife's new one on order has arrived in Canberra and space is getting tight.
I probably was a bit modest with the price but the ad was posted at 4pm and I could have sold it many times over before dark and people were even holding a Dutch auction offering $500 or more over the asking price!
I had to read it a couple of times I though you had gone all posh and royal on me, my brain was picturing Range Rover.
Something special are there really no new Rangers in Australia
They're about, especially if you want a Wildtrack and/or auto. I want a simpler model and a replacement that's more of the same as my current 2011 BT50 clone. Also, interestingly, my local dealer wouldn't sell me a manual, had to order it from Bega. Interesting times for sure.
My thinking is that the Ranger is now 10 years mature, and I like the 3.2 manual. If they had a 3.2 manual Raptor, I get that, but the 10 spd auto 2l doesn't work for me in the bush. The bugs are ironed out, and the few remaining are well known. There's plenty of after market support and knowledge, I like how they drive, and its not a Toyota.
My wife couldn't get a new manual sedan Kia, Hyundai, Toyota or Mazda in Australia so had to order one from Japan.
If I was buying a town car I'm happy with an auto, and most these days are more economical than a manual, at least according to the testing. Interestingly though, the manual ranger is a bit more 'officially' economical than the auto.
Anyway, a bit off topic....
It's the same in retardland... err, I mean, the USA. Dealerships are largely empty - they can't get bikes from ships into the port and then onto their sales floor. Used bikes are sold before they barely hit the floor. Craigslist has dried up, except for the really terrible deals. And even some of those are selling.
Going to be interesting to see what happens to all the big caravans being sold these days when the electric revolution picks up speed.
Cant see an electric vehicle towing a big dual axle van.
Many of the current generation of diesel and petrol SUV, 4x4, twincabs, etc ... will still be around in 20 years. In the mean time, particularly if the progress with electric vehicles in recent years is any guide, there'll be much more advancement and improvements in e-vehicles, I think we'll all be surprised.
If not, there'll likely be a many more on-site caravans.