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Woody's + 1.60x21 Excel A60 = The Shit!!

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by pigstain, May 5, 2009.

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  1. pigstain, May 5, 2009
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    pigstain

    pigstain Out of Control

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    Just got my new Superlaced/Supersized 1.60 x 21 Excel A60 back from Woody's and I am pretty impressed. Wheel is perfectly trued and laced in a cross 2 and cross 3 pattern, spoke gauge is HUGE and the rim looks extremely stout. Can't wait to bash the shit out of it in the rocks to see how it holds up. Got really sick of having to bend the Behr POS back into shape after even moderate riding. What garbage. Getting the UHD Michelin tube and TKC back on was a bit more work but I kinda figured that with the small width rim. Thanks Woody for the advice, suggestions and great service and product. I'll be back for the rear shortly!!!
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  2. Autostream, May 5, 2009
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    Autostream

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    After having bashed mine into all manner of immovable objects at speed, I think it is more probable I will break my wrists before I damage my Woody's wheels.... Bit heavy but....
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  3. gaspipe, May 5, 2009
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    gaspipe

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    I've bent two A60's so far, both in Baja. But they weren't Woody's fault.
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  4. foxgguy2001, May 5, 2009
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    picture or it didnt happen!:evil
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  5. mookymoo, May 5, 2009
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    mookymoo Mookish Mook

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    On the EXC? Yoiks ...
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  6. Head2Wind, May 6, 2009
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    Head2Wind

    Head2Wind MotorcycleMayhem

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    hit it hard enough, it will bend...
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  7. pigstain, May 6, 2009
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    pigstain

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    Hit the stocker hard enough and it will disintegrate. :lol3
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  8. chasbo, May 6, 2009
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    hey, post a couple pics of the new wheels!
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  9. rubRsidedown, May 6, 2009
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    + 1 :evil
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  10. gaspipe, May 6, 2009
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    gaspipe

    gaspipe Wandering Soul

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    Exactly. Nothing is unbustable if you hammer it enough.
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  11. Bok Befok, May 6, 2009
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    Bok Befok

    Bok Befok Been here awhile

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    price?
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  12. PHACTORYPHIL, May 15, 2009
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    PHACTORYPHIL

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    How can I get my hands on one? I need a true 1.60"x 21" for my Dakar..
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  13. Venteuri, May 15, 2009
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    Venteuri

    Venteuri I don't give a shit

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    +1
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  14. LKN4DRT, May 15, 2009
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    If you are going to hit the rocks with it dont you want something more substantial than a tkc?
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  15. pigstain, May 15, 2009
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    pigstain

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    Yeah the TKC is too light a sidewall and is just finishing out it's life span. I'm thinking 606 or MT21 for the next tire. I really hammered the new rim hard last weekend and it is still perfect. And that's with the TKC at 34psi. Now that the rim can take the abuse I have to seriously think about the fork setup. .59's still not enough to prevent major bottoming.

    Price for this setup was around $420 shipped. That was with my stock hub.
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  16. YOGOI, May 15, 2009
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    WoW, $420 Thats all I'll say about that.
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  17. YOGOI, May 15, 2009
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    YOGOI

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    Well, let me add; Suspention (front) work is about the best mod you can make, and it will save your rim. Money well spent
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  18. Seth S, May 16, 2009
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    Seth S

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    Woodies built me a new front wheel after I mangled my stocker out in the Nevada desert. I went with the 1.85x21 excel rim, the billet hub, the ss spokes and nipples, and the superlace design...cost about $800. It was a lot of money but as others have said the obstacle that destroys that wheel will probably shatter every bone in your body.
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  19. Seth S, May 16, 2009
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    Seth S

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    +1. My stock wheel went poof with my undersprung/valved stock forks. I am going to be sending them out soon to get redone.
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  20. gaspipe, May 16, 2009
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    gaspipe

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    Deciding to set up the front spring rate (sags) because you don't want to bend a wheel is the tail wagging the dog. Set up your front end for handling.

    That's not true. An A60 will bend. I bent one of them on an RFS bike, a machine about 100+ lbs lighter than a 950. There was no crash, no broken anything. Just a bent wheel. And I bent another on my Super Enduro. Neither were the wheelbuilder's fault.

    My point is, no wheel will survive the combination of speed, rough trail and axle weight. You cannot buy an unbendable wheel. You certainly can buy a wheel significantly sturdier than the wheel KTM supplies on the 950. Valving mods will not save you. No matter how tough a wheel can be made, it can be bent, and much easier than you may think. You can't escape that unless you can rewrite the laws of physics.

    Riiiight.... :rolleyes
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