WSBK: St. John the Bautista (Western Hemisphere Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Racing' started by yooperbikemike, Oct 9, 2019.

  1. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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  2. viajero

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    Go, Johnnie, go.
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  3. DogBoy

    DogBoy Not a Gnarly Adventurer

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    Fantastic facility with dramatic scenery and the track produced some excitement last year. The slow corners leading onto long straights seem to favor the Ducati; or at the least the early-season Bautista Ducati. Rea doubled last year despite being toilet-hugging sick. Toprak was on the podium last year as well. WSS Championship showdown with neither Fred or Randy giving an inch...er...centimeter.
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  4. Scoozi

    Scoozi Been here awhile

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  5. Pantah

    Pantah Jiggy Dog Fan from Scottsdale Supporter

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    Gee, Ducati should have paid up to keep Bautista. Not sure why the V4 Ducati is good at BSB and not at WSK. Seems like Bautista is the only guy that goes really fast on it. He's got the most wins, fastest laps, poles etc. Too bad he went through the weak spot where he crashed out, got hurt etc. He should have owned WSK this season. Maybe Scott Redding can be close, but somehow I doubt it. He's just a cheaper option to try.
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  6. wpbarlow

    wpbarlow Long timer Supporter

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    Why did ~ a third of the field not start? The only person I heard they gave a reason fro was Baz.
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  7. DogBoy

    DogBoy Not a Gnarly Adventurer

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    The track was really slippery and one line so some of the racers felt it was too dangerous. Friday's practice was almost useless because times were several seconds off last year due to a dirty and green track. Today wasn't much better. Several racers went to race direction before pit lane opened for Race 1 to discuss track conditions. They offered to run two full length races on Sunday if today's race could be postponed. Race direction didn't go for it so some people sat out the race. Temperatures will be quite a bit lower tomorrow so the traction is expected to be much improved and the track safer.
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    Good thing they went from 4 bikes on a row to 3.
    It would have looked poor if there were only 3 rows of bikes at the start. :jjen
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  9. wpbarlow

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    Thanks.
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  10. spezjag

    spezjag Long timer Super Supporter

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    Argentina 2019 WSBK Race 1 Results:

    As noted above, some racers refused to race due to track conditions caused by excessive heat, leading to o greasy track conditions. Baz crashed out in pre-race practice, causing some riders to approach Race Direction (a la Monza in 1973), proposing they run two races tomorrow in predicted cooler temperatures. When Race direction declined that proposal, Melandri, Davies, Laverty, Camier, Kiyonari, and others chose to sit this race out, leaving 12 riders on the starting grid.

    1. Bautista
    2. Rea
    3. Razgatlioglu
    4. Van der Mark
    5. Lowes
    6. Haslam
    7. Sykes
    8. Torres
    9. Mercado
    10. Del Bianco
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    DogBoy Not a Gnarly Adventurer

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    Lap times in SuperBike warm up were much faster than yesterday. Rea was in the 1:37s and several riders were in the 1:39s including those who sat out yesterday. Everything should be back to normal today with the lower temps.
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    spezjag Long timer Super Supporter

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  13. spezjag

    spezjag Long timer Super Supporter

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    2019 Argentine WSBK Superpole Race Results:

    1. Rea
    2. Bautista
    3. Razgatlioglu
    4. Davies
    5. Lowes
    6. Van der Mark
    7. Cortese
    8. Hallam
    9. Sykes
    10. Mercado

    Only Baz DNF'd.
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  14. SGrider

    SGrider This space for rent Supporter

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    Superpole and race 1 looked like they were riding on rain tires in the dry, greasy as hell.
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    Statement posted to Instagram by Chaz Davis, and Leon Camier. I'm sure there were others, but I'm only following those two.
    Statement1.JPG Statement2.JPG
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    DogBoy Not a Gnarly Adventurer

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    Laverty posted that statement also. I believe all the riders who sat out Race 1 were unified in preparing and posting that statement. I also noticed several pro racers giving them support on social media.

    Lap times and passing opportunities today versus yesterday appear to support the arguments of the racers who questioned the conditions on Friday and Saturday.

    Some excitement at the front early on today but the real action was back in the pack for both the SuperBike and Supersport races. If Davies had a better start he may have had something for Rea. The Supersport championship showdown in Qatar should be great. Glad to see Tati Mercado riding so well and getting a good result at home. When he raced in the U.S., he practiced at the same local dirt track as I did. Hope he can stay in the SBK Championship next year.
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  17. spezjag

    spezjag Long timer Super Supporter

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    2019 WSBK Race 2 Results:

    1. Rea
    2. Davies
    3. Razgatlioglu
    4. Van der Mark
    5. Bautista
    6. Lowes
    7. Laverty
    8. Mercado
    9. Torres
    10. Haslam

    Sykes the only DNF of note.
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