Yamaha T7 TENERE Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by VTbeemer, Apr 7, 2017.

  1. Parigi

    Parigi Hoinar

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    AFR 15? Was that O2 sensor calibrated, or is it that lean?
  2. Boxerbreath

    Boxerbreath 2017.5 GS Black Storm

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    I think the term might be ‘quicker’ in a given gear.
  3. MzunguMoto

    MzunguMoto rode 15 countries, 180 more to go

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    TL;DR: the FZ/MT-07 both pulls harder thereby accelerating faster and has a higher top speed than the T7 - to figure out how and why, some number crunching is required...

    :y0!

    The Yamaha 689cc CP2 motor, transmission, and gear ratios are identical in the FZ/MT07 and the Tenere 700.

    The sprockets on the T7 are 15 front and 46 rear (3.0667). The MT07 is 16 front and 43 rear (3.3077). The MT07 is 7.9% taller (faster speed) than the T7 in gearing. But the FZ is 5.6% shorter (increased torque, quicker acceleration) than the T7 due to tire size (i.e., 26.27” T7 tire height v. 24.8” FZ07 tire height).

    Funny, I always thought the FZ should have been taller still given the torquey starting point, but I really do love the T7’s net choices...

    ...which, ladies and gentlemen total...

    1.9% taller MT07!!!

    !!

    !

    ...but my FZ still pulls harder than my T7.
    :kboom



    The T7 weighs 55lbs more wet, so assuming a 200lbs jockey including gear the same motor has 9.2% more mass to accelerate with torque linearly proportional to force and because F=MA... which is why my 2015 FZ07 pulls 7.1% harder than my 2021 Tenere, approximately.

    And theoretically it would have a 1.9% higher top speed, but the aerodynamics swamp that little difference above 50mph quickly, like with speed cubed, again with advantage to the FZ07.

    Which is why the FZ goes 0-60mph in 3.4 seconds and tops out at 133mph whereas the T7 does it in leisurely 4.7 seconds while giving up the ghost at 120mph. Dollars to donuts I bet the Tracer 700 is closer to the FZ at like ~3.7 seconds and 127mph (tbc - haven’t seen numbers).

    Don’t get me wrong, I own and love both bikes. But they’re different tools. The FZ is the better street bike - she’s quicker and faster there. But the T7 is quicker, faster and a hell of a lot more fun when the road ends. For my riding preferences, and if it were available in the US, I’d probably swap the FZ for the Tracer 700’s longer legs and updated aesthetics (e.g., LEDs).

    Different horses, courses and riders, etc.

    :ricky
  4. allroadrider

    allroadrider Been here awhile

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    Any one found a suitable throttle lock ie Kraco ???
  5. DWEL700

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    I have the rubber pieces in the exact same position and did lose one on a very rough FSR after about 35km.
    I replaced it and think I will try the zip tie this time.
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  6. MzunguMoto

    MzunguMoto rode 15 countries, 180 more to go

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    Twisted throttle finally emailed me back that it doesn’t exist while KAOKO has remained silent.
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  7. MeefZah

    MeefZah Curmudgeonly Supporter

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    I'm available Tuesday but full disclosure, I want to swing a leg over that thing if we meet.

    The T7, that is.

    PM sent...
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  8. MzunguMoto

    MzunguMoto rode 15 countries, 180 more to go

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    quickness = quicker acceleration = more torque @ lower speed and ~equal power
  9. gsstampeder

    gsstampeder Long timer

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    Has anyone solved the buffering issue. I’ve searched and found lotsa posts listing this as an issue, but I’ve yet to find a solution. I’d rather not cut down the existing screen and all the deflectors I’ve found seem to be designed for wider screens. I love the look of the front screen but the buffering at highway speeds is too much.
    Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
  10. goldentaco

    goldentaco Been here awhile

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    Rally seat, and Powerbronze Adventure Sports screen fixed the buffeting for me. Still a little wind blast but the roaring and buffeting are gone.

    I got the dark tint, and it looks great. Now I need to tint the side deflectors to match or wrap them.

    https://www.powerbronze.co.uk/yamaha-tenere-700-19-20-460-y111.html

    J
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  11. goldentaco

    goldentaco Been here awhile

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    Sure. It's kind of expected at this point.
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  12. MzunguMoto

    MzunguMoto rode 15 countries, 180 more to go

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    I’m game... @Benduro when you back next week?

    Could folks do the Junction on Wednesday or Thursday?
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  13. Snowbird

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    Let's try figuring out how many T7s were ordered on May 22.

    Is there anyone following this thread who still has not gotten a pre-order program bike yet?

    Does anyone have a VIN higher than 1100?
  14. MzunguMoto

    MzunguMoto rode 15 countries, 180 more to go

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    ~900 is the number I heard for US, 80-90 of those in California and 10 at Berkeley Honda Yamaha alone

    This isn’t necessarily everyone who wanted to do the PDP thing. It’s what they had available. Folks who tried when the system crashed had no luck, same once they were out of stock.

    Are you trying to figure out the PDP order number, or how many would have ordered if this whole PDP thing wasn’t a cluster?

    Bay Area based on triangulation on BHY’s 10 bikes and identified owners only has ~50% rabid participation on ADVrider.
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  15. kvango

    kvango Been here awhile

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  16. MzunguMoto

    MzunguMoto rode 15 countries, 180 more to go

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    cool find

    it’s dumb they’re making one of the best looking black ivory... silly false rarity

    maybe if I tell them I want an “obsidian” bike I can still get pretty close

    I’d at least want to borrow those aluminum tanks and skid plate to reverse engineer for a hot minute

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  17. MzunguMoto

    MzunguMoto rode 15 countries, 180 more to go

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    Is it just me or is everything dead today?
    • email
    • posts here
    • phone calls
    • full body need for a nap at 1pm
    • even the birds are too hot to sing
    it is one thousand percent too hot
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  18. Benduro

    Benduro These are my dress clothes Supporter

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    You guys, please don't use an impact on those CS nuts.

    All you have to do is elevate the rear wheel, whether centerstand or rear wheel stand, put it in neutral so you aren't hammering against your gears with an impact or inserting something through your wheel against spokes or having to stand on the rear brake while using the impact.

    Just put a wrench on the CS nut. It's USUALLY the same diameter nut as the rear axle so you already have the tool in your kit (at least for all the KTMs).
    Then you rotate the back wheel backwards gently until the wrench on the CS nut contacts the top of the swingarm at the pivot.

    Then you just use the leverage of the wheel through the chaindrive system and continue roatating rearward and the wrench stays put and you rotate it right off. Reverse the sytem for torqueing.


    Suuuuper easy.
  19. MzunguMoto

    MzunguMoto rode 15 countries, 180 more to go

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    good advice.

    I once stripped the threads on the output shaft of my SV650 simply using and unbalance tool (1/2“ or 3/4” inch ratchet) to loosen it. That sucked.

    I’ll try your way next time.
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  20. Benduro

    Benduro These are my dress clothes Supporter

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    I think we could work something like that out.