You guys think Harley Davidson will last?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by tessalino, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. sluagh

    sluagh not fade away

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    Not true. They have had positive earnings every year since 2005. I'm sure before that too but that's as far back as the chart I found goes.
  2. Big John Sny

    Big John Sny Long timer

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    Of course the Honda 250 made 20 hp (13 ft lbs of torque) and got 67 MPG

    The Harley 883 has 50 Hp (59 ft lbs of torque) and gets 60 MPG

    Both are fuel efficiency, budget bikes from the respective manufacturers. The Harley isn’t as cheap initial purchase but 20 year old versions still sell for 3500 where you might have to pay someone to take a 15 year old nighthawk off your hands.

    Not better or worse. Just different. People get a little too wrapped up in displacement size. Perhaps fuel economy vs hp would be a better way to evaluate. I don’t really like either of those bikes. My point was that, this was a particularly bad version of the bike for him to evaluate. For instance, a XR1200 he likely would have still disliked, but would have been closer to his expectations for riding style. Just my opinion.
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  3. liberpolly

    liberpolly Lazy rider

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    One thing Harleys have that none others do is the ability to part traffic. I was tagging behind some guy on Dyna with straight pipes, and it is honestly the first time I've seen slower cars voluntarily move to the right lane to let him pass. Too bad I had to pass him on my Duc when the traffic cleared...
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  4. liberpolly

    liberpolly Lazy rider

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    Or even better, hp per lbs of weight.
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  5. CrapKerouac

    CrapKerouac Long timer

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    You didn't watch the video. I don't blame you, Yammie Noob can be irritating. He went into with an open mind and wanted to like the bike. It's project bike, they're going to put a 1200 kit on it and other mods, then give it away.
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    So he seeks "likes" from it. How trendy.
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  7. ddavidv

    ddavidv The reason we can't have nice things

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    I think that is only the second YammieNoob video I've ever watched.
    I did get the impression he wanted to like it but simply couldn't.
    His comments pretty much echo my first and only Harley riding experience and I'm not sport bike rider. I am pretty traditional in my tastes. Though I sort of 'get' the H-D V-twin appeal the package as a whole is horribly lacking.

    "But you can customize it to suit your wants!" Perhaps, but perhaps I shouldn't have to. Didn't have to alter my Triumphs to suit my taste.

    H-D makes great bikes for people who only want H-D's was the take away from the video. I concur.
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  8. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard Instagram @motopossum

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    Judging by his commentary in the vid and having looked at a few others, I can tell that he isn't a well versed rider or really much of a well rounded motorcyclist. Probably similar for his followers.
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    I tried to watch his video. I made it just past the 3 minute mark before I couldn't take it anymore. It's a 35 minute video! How can anyone actually watch the whole thing???
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    I let it play in the background while working on other things. You missed a lot of ignorant drivel. :lol3
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  11. Big John Sny

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    That would only work for a track bike.
    Real world riding conditions weight is a two edge sword.
    Light will accelerate qucker, turn quicker , be easier to push around the driveway, but will also translate more road vibration to the rider, be more sensitive to wind, more of a change in center of mass with a passenger, ect.

    Speaking of, today is 6hr endurance race day. I will be sore tomorrow.
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  12. Big John Sny

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    I did watch the video.
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  13. Bar None

    Bar None OLD DUDE Supporter

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    Where is this race? The bike on the left must get good MPG.
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    They are formula 6 and 7
    They all get good fuel economy for race bikes :)
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    That’s what suspension is for.
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    neanderthal globeriding wannabe

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    And engineering. Like engineering a balance shaft into a V twin to reduce primary and secondary vibrations. Then you don't have to make your bike so heavy. Meaning you can make it accelerate, brake and turn quicker. Use less fuel. Give off less heat.

    Actually just thinking about all the things they could do is giving me a headache.
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    Takes two balancers to quell second order vibrations. :D
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    Yammie Noob is so ignorant, and arrogant that he can't comprehend how stupid he is. He's so clueless I consider his criticisms as endorsements, and his endorsements as criticisms.
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    Enthusiasts are an interesting breed. Choosing the wrong tool for a job, just to criticize it for not being what it isn't.
    It seems like nothing more than seeking validation through avocation.
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    Enthusiasts don't do that. Enthusiasts appreciate all forms of their respective hobbies/lifestyles. What you're describing is usually just referred to as being an asshole.:lol3
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