Do folks in the GS or KTM threads post up questions like "You guys think that Motorrad will last?" or 'Will KTM make it?" After all both are quintessential adult toys just like HDs or most other expensive bikes. The Roundel seems to have the same proud soul stirring for BMW faithful as the bar and shield for the HD guys. Unfortunately for all three, large and noisy crowds of owners don't always translate into sales to make the brand survive.