@The Bigfella - I've been to Thailand at least 30 times but never set foot in Chiang Mai. Haven't been back since 2004, when I decided it was too 'done' for me, and vowing not to return. My wife wants to go. She's Sunda, a Bandungian, has no idea what the hell's up there. I used to be semi-fluent in Thai, so maybe I could reactivate it, disavow my vow and return in a year or so with her and kid. You staying put?