i stumbled over this maker of protective gear, https://moto.zandona.net. It's an Italian company and their products are indeed made in italy. I'm tempted to order their Netcube Jacket. All the pads/protectors on the jacket are rated CE level 2. They look like they are conducive to ventilation. I bought but will return a Dainese Light Wave jacket. It turned out the pads are CE level 2 EXCEPT the back protector which is only level 1! WTF??? In consideration is also the Forcefield pro shirt. The Zandona jacket is available on https://www.fc-moto.de for pretty much the same price (incl shipping) as the forcefield shirt. To be worn under a mosko moto basilisk jacket. any opinion and or experience with Zandona???