Zero Motorcycles

Discussion in 'Electric Motorcycles' started by T.S.Zarathustra, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. longslowdistance

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    All we electric riders are early adopters.

    Nitpickers have a quiver full of reasons that we should be miserable, but guess what, we are having a ton of fun with our early gen electrics.
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  2. WagonWillie

    WagonWillie Been here awhile

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  3. brap attack

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    I've read through this entire thread and there are some really good points all around. Thanks everyone for contributing. Im considering the ZERO FX and am wondering does anyone here actually off road with it regularly? If so, could please share your experiences further, I'd be deeply grateful. I'm used to riding KTM 525, XR650R, and various other larger bikes. I was thinking FX 7.2, I ride aggressively off-road and that's my main interest. I would commute on it some, and will be living in Maui with the bike here in 2 months which is mostly 40 mile or less rides 1 way, with very low speed limits. Seems like I could do a lot of scooting around with it effectively, although its much more important for me to be able to actually dirt bike in terms of what bike I bring with me to the island.

    Im also wondering with charging the FX, it plugs into a standard 110 socket, does it also plug into electric vehicle charging stations? If so, is that considerably faster than the 9 hour, 110 charging time? to get the 2 hour charging time with the 110 socket, how many plugs and charging upgrades do you need? Can I set the bike up for 220? would it charge faster that way? Am I'm going to have to ask random stores/people to charge my bike and such is a concern of mine.

    seriously concerned about the overheating issues if riding slower, technical trails without a lot of airflow going over it, is this a thing or just sustained open throttle? Also concerned about hamming on it too hard on jumps and such, I've sheered some subframe bolts completely on a KLR 650 before jumping it to much haha. Im going to beat the shit out of this bike in all honesty, crashes included. Will this bike actually hold up like a dual sport dirt bike similar to a XR650R or 525, or am I going to be deeply disappointed and out a bunch of money? Is there any protection around the battery itself to protect it from crashes or landing on a funny rock or root in a slow speed awkward fall? how sturdy are the batteries in general in regards to crashes? Im not one to treat things delicately, especially dirt bikes, so it has to be fairly bomber for me. Ill also be very far away from any deanships, which feels like a bad idea...
  4. Jarrett2

    Jarrett2 Been here awhile

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    I haven't owned an FX in a while, but I'll try to answer what I can.

    First up, the FX is my favorite small bike that I've ridden off pavement. There is something about the lack of heat, noise, rotational mass, etc. that makes the FX really fun to ride in technical situations. Also the near silent running makes it more enjoyable for me as well. It seems more like a powered mountain bike than a dirt bike. I've never ridden a trials bike, but it seems like that's what it would be like.

    I didn't do any single track on mine, but I would if I still had it. I did ride it somehwat hard off pavement and it was a lot of fun The stock suspension is soft and might need some upgrades for that. It also has a belt stock, might want to change it out with their chain kit for durability, if they still offer that.

    As far as range, here is what I got on mine:

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    The slower you go, the farther you go. The harder you ride, the shorter your trip will be. I could run mine out of battery in 32 miles if I wanted to. Or I could creep along at 25 mph and a do 70 miles. That's on the 7.2 battery. The bike really makes you ride to its limitations rather than your own. That's what made me sell it.

    As far as I know, there is no way to speed up the charging on the FX. It always takes 9-10 hours when plugged into a 110 wall socket. They do make an adapter that let's you plug it into some faster charging stations, but the bike still recharges at the same rate as it would if it were in a 110 wall socket.

    If you ride it near WOT throttle for extended periods of time, it will overheat and slow itself down. Granted, I never overheated mine off pavement. Every time I put mine into Thermal Protection mode, it was on paved roads or a paved race track. As far as the durability of the bike in terms of thrashing it, I don't know. I never pushed mine that hard. They used to offer an MX model directly from Zero that was supposedly more sturdy than the FX, but I don't know if that's still an option. My guess is, it won't take the abuse that a KTM or Honda dirt bike will.

    I suspect as hard as you say you ride, the FX might very well be a disappointment off road. On road, it sounds like it can do what you want, as long as you have hours to leave it on the charger once you get where you are going.
    I loved my FX, but ultimately these limitations drove me back to gas bikes. I have a Husky FE 450 now and it does all the things you are asking about better than the FX does, but it isn't a cool electric bike.

    In my opinion, the Zero FX (and really the whole Zero line up) is not made for people that ride hard. They are really geared to the easy going commuter bunch. The harder you ride a Zero, the more limitations you find, especially in the FX line.

    All that said, I still think about getting another one from time to time. If a clean used one popped on my local CL at a low price, which almost never happens, I'd probably buy it just to have that ride experience again. But only because I had gas bikes in the garage for serious riding.
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  5. brap attack

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    Thanks for the in depth reply. The more I mull over it, the more I'm realizing that the bike is not where I'd need it to be to be stoked about it. Im sure that the limitations are going to be a disappointment for how I want to use it. I like pushing it to the extreme, and if the bike was holding me back instead of fear, that's a big no go. That being said, all the up sides are very appealing and its sucks to miss out on them, I'm truly looking forward to the day when silent is the norm. I'm thinking that I'll stick with my bigger ICE bikes for now for a true dual sport experience, especially to be able to island hop around and spend some multi-day trips out and about. Maybe I'll try out a Sur Ron as a single track mountain bike type experience out there and keep my ICE to have more of an actual motorcycle.
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  6. Rider68

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    I have an FXS and I concur with Jarrett2. As far as motorcycles go, the Zero's aren't that delicate per se. But compared to true offroad motorcycles...yeah, they are.