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Zip Ties

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Yellow Pig, Jan 14, 2017.

  1. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt! Supporter

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    There are so many cheap zip ties out there. Who makes the best quality ties and where do you buy them in bulk?
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    Home Depot sells a variety, some of which are UV resistant (labeled as such). They are pretty good.
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    All will get brittle with time and age. I just buy the size I need locally. If they'll be exposed to sun/UV light go with black not white. White is basically, no color so it absorbs all rays. Black is a saturation of all colors so it doesn't absorb much UV rays/colors cause it's already saturated. In turn lasting longer before getting brittle and breaking.
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  4. JCool

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    HD and Lowe's have stainless steel and reusable wire ties. They literally last forever.
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  5. local1

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    You may want to check into basic photography. White reflects while black absorbs, you maybe shouldn't be giving advice if you lack common sense?
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  6. RonKZ650

    RonKZ650 Been here awhile

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    Black is resistant to uv, white or natural color is not. Just the way it is in zipties. Get black for sure. Not sure I trust Home Depot or Lowes Chinese offerings. Digikey or Mouser offers many choices in black zipties in all sizes. 3m or Panduit are good quality.
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  7. DualSpaz

    DualSpaz Been here awhile

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    Thomas & Betts are the best I've come across. I don't know the reason but, the black ones do hold up better to UV.
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  8. local1

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    I'm guessing because of black absorbing heat it has to be?..
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  9. Yellow Pig

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    Thanks. I've read the Panduit one are high quality too.
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  10. RetiredandRiding

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    What does this have to do with photography? White light contains all colors; white zip ties are "colorless".

    "The thing about 'common sense' is that it's not very." Jury's still out on who has it and who doesn't.
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  11. local1

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    All will get brittle with time and age. I just buy the size I need locally. If they'll be exposed to sun/UV light go with black not white. White is basically, no color so it absorbs all rays. Black is a saturation of all colors so it doesn't absorb much UV rays/colors cause it's already saturated. In turn lasting longer before getting brittle and breaking.

    Did you not read the part about black not absorbing because it is already ''Saturated"?.. what i said about photography meant if you have no more understanding
    of colors than the advice that was given then a photography class would provide basic knowledge of colors and light.
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  13. eedavis

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    I've had good success with 3M zip ties ... p/n 06204 for 100x 15", p/n 06220 for an assortment. I used to buy them from 3m.com, but the last batch came from Amazon. They're not cheap. And now that I look at 3m.com again, I see lots of part numbers for cable ties, but I don't see them at retailers (ie Amazon). So I might need another plan when I need to buy more.
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    Transmitted light color is one thing, reflected light color is different. The presence of all colors vs the absence of all colors. In transmitted light white is the presence of all color, in reflected light white is the absence of all color. UV is the same, it is just at a different frequency/wave length.
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  15. anonny

    anonny What could go wrong?

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    Yup
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    T & B's that have the stainless steel locking device are my favorites. More expensive than most bulk junk on the market these days, but you never have to worry about them coming unlatched.
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  17. fritzcoinc

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    Go to an Electrical supply.
    Buy Tie Wraps with UV protection in the material.
    You can also buy them by load rating.
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    If you lack an electrical supply house nearby, McMaster Carr probably has a couple of pages of zip ties in various specifications. They are happy to make bulk sales and ship both promptly and relatively cheaply.
    Most folks don't keep a motorcycle long enough for even the cheapest low grade ties to fail. A goodly portion of the ties will be protected from exposure to light anyway.
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    I've had cheap ties get brittle and fail in a year or less.
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  20. JCool

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    They aren't really made to hold a KLR together , you know. :imaposer
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