2001 Reflex 250...Any good?

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Steve_h, Mar 9, 2018.

  1. Steve_h

    Steve_h Been here awhile

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    I hope they are on the 3rd or 4th because they like them so much not because they wear out quickly. Right now I'm ok with the variator the way it is. I did notice the low performance area from about 25 to 40 though. That may start to get on my nerves. Time will tell. Thanks for the tip about the clothes hanger.

    I don't really have anyone to ride with around here except my son. Once we get the title straightened out on his Vino, we might have to take off this summer riding somewhere. I love putting around on my little 50 and don't let the small size stop me from going pretty much wherever but like you said, this gives me the ability to ride with someone else if I want and also to go places that are simply too far away for the little 50.
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  2. Steve_h

    Steve_h Been here awhile

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    I'll check the fuses and make sure none are blown before I pull the gauge cluster and replace bulbs.
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  3. Akais

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    The back shocks are adjustable. Mine were set all the way up when I got my Reflex, bringing them down a couple of notches defiantly helped the ride. I thought about bypassing the kickstand switch on mine but everyone I know that did that bumped the throttle when it was on the sidestand and the bike ended up on it's side. I thought the brake was not necessary either until I parked the bike on a pretty steep incline. With a transmission bike you just stick it in gear and there is no problem. With a scooter, however, there is nothing to keep it rolling down the hill unless you set the parking brake.

    If I remember right, there is only one 30 amp fuse on the bike and that fuses everything so I would not be sure what is causing the instrument lights to not work. I would suspect a ground or plug unplugged.

    Everyone notices the lag from 25 to 40. That is why I changed the variator out on mine. The stock variator in the Reflex has 2 different ramps and 2 different sets of weights. One of the problems is the heavier weights are too aggressive and won't let the engine get to it's maximum torque before changing the ratio. If it kept the engine near the peak of the torque curve (around 5500 rpm) then it would work. Unfortunately by changing the ratio too early the engine does not have enough torque to overcome the extra strain that the transmission puts on it and you end up with what feels like a lag. Honda did not use that type of variator on any other bike. When it came out with the Big Ruckus, the ramp faces were all the same length and all the weights were the same. Because it is exactly the same engine, you can swap the Big Ruckus ramp face and weights in and it will lose the lag. You can also get rid of it by removing the larger weights (commonly referred to as the "K-Mod") but by doing that, the bike will lose about 10 mph of top speed.
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  4. bikeridermark

    bikeridermark Long timer

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    The variator mod made my scoots much more enjoyable. My friends and I run 19g dr. pulley sliders and the big ruckus 'face b'. Seems to be a good combination of accelereation and cruising speed.
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  5. Akais

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    I had 19 gram Dr. Pulley sliders in mine also but I could not get the bike above 65 mph. While accelerating the bike was running about 6500 RPM. I put a set of 22 gram sliders and that brought the RPMs down to 4500 and it was a little sluggish on hills. I then mixed 3 of the 19 gm and 3 22 gram and now the RPMs while accelerating are right at 5500 and I have hit 82 indicated 78MPH GPS and still climbing. So for my weight and riding style, this seems to be the sweet spot. Some of the motorcyclists I ride with complain when I lead, that I am "too fast" and that's fine with me.
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  6. john6012

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    If you need a free coolant thermostat let me know, you can basically have it for postage. I believe I have a set of disc brakes pads for the front wheel also. I don't need them, I sold my Reflex with 1,400 miles. May have some more things also, I'll have to look. Just pay postage
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  7. Wentwest

    Wentwest How's that work?

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    Seems like you're on the way now. Everything you mentioned in your plans is pretty straightforward to do. I've never found replacement shocks, but I haven't really tried. Small diameter wheels do give a rough ride and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it. The idea that bigger tires will help is also not really true, but there's a thread here somewhere about the "dark side", using a small car tire on the rear.

    I have two 1990 Honda Elite 250's which have a very similar engine, in a short wheelbase frame and 10 inch rims front and back. It's a little lighter than the Reflex, a lot more nimble in tight places, and has lousy drum brakes front and back. I love these scoots, more than the Reflex I had, but I live in a city and have to squeeze through tight traffic and park in a garage that I pack with 2 cars, 2 scooters and a workbench and a washer and dryer. Out in the suburbs or country I'd love a Reflex.
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  8. JerseyBiker

    JerseyBiker Living the life!

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    Steve, with the Reflex you will easily be able to ride the Blue ridge parkway, many miles of great roads near us and even the Dragon. Many of us have gone many miles on 250cc scoots. I've ridden mine from Asheville to Florida several times.
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  9. fullmetalscooter

    fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off

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    AS someone said 250cc can do it all. People run iron but runs on honda helix 250 . I ve done 700 K about 420 miles in one day on an old helix. If you add a rear box and some throw over bags you good to go anywhere in the world.
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  10. Steve_h

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    I promised some pics and here they are. You can see the wonderful seat that I have. The left turn signal needs some repair. It works fine but is cosmeticly deficient. You can see the scratches on the left by the turn signal. Anybody have a silver left turn signal cover for a 2001 that they aren't using? I also need to source a battery cover plastic piece so my underseat compartment won't have a big hole in it.

    Overall, I don't think I got hurt at all on this deal. Runs and drives great, new rubber on both ends, new brakes on both ends, new battery.

    I have seen some info somewhere about a rear box and am tempted to do it. That would give lots more storage. I've got throw-over saddlebags and also a good sized tail bag (the bag that attaches to a backrest on a motorcycle) that I could strap to the back (passenger portion) of the seat.
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  11. Steve_h

    Steve_h Been here awhile

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    Hey John,

    Let me know what all you've got. You might have something I need. I hate to take it all since someone else out here might need it
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  12. john6012

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    Ok, let me do an inventory I replaced the front turn signal lenses on my Reflex but threw the old ones away since they were shot. I'm pretty sure I have a new set of ft disc brake pads. and other things. I'll do the inventory hopefully this weekend and get back to you. I'm bleeding the brakes on the Elite 110 at present then the radiator and oil. But in the process I'll find some things you might need.
    By the way, it loks like you have the taller windshield for the Reflex and that's good. But don't use Windex on it and rub like crazy, it'll scratch.
    Addendum: I know from memory that I have a mirror, thermostat, intake rubber, the brakes prev mentioned, perhaps more. Oh yeah, silver paint and clear coat specifically made for the Honda Reflex silver.
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  13. Wentwest

    Wentwest How's that work?

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    Some of these plastic parts are still available from Honda. You can check online or with local dealers. You might have to repaint, but that's not too hard.
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  14. Steve_h

    Steve_h Been here awhile

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    I saw one on ebay the other day that appeared to be gold in the pictures. The listing didn't specify the color of it.
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    I found out last night that the dash lights do work. It just wasn't dark enough to see them the other evening.

    Oh, it's a non-ABS model.
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  16. bikeridermark

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    Huh. That's odd. None of us have had the issue. :hmmmmm
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    Well it could have been that or around the same time I found that the snorkle leading to the airbox had disconnected itself and the bike was probably running lean due to that. Once I reconnected it I now seem to have more top end power. What was your running RPMs with the 19gram sliders?


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    Akais Ride Hi-Viz

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    The ABS models are pretty rare. Most of them I have seen were ‘03s. Looks like you will have to paint a cover for that turn signal, partzilla lists them as unavailable. Those are a popular items as that is the first piece to hit the ground during an unintended get-off so it’s logical that they would be the first to disappear from Honda’s shelves. ‘05 and ‘07 also had a silver Reflex that may be close enough colorwise.


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  19. john6012

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    I found some things some of you might want the only photo I don't have is the new air filter that is still in the package. Let me know. I do have new "snorkle" or air cleaner tube that I bought from Partzilla.

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