2018 American Flat Track (and other flat track bs!)

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Rich B, Oct 14, 2017.

  1. raptortrail

    raptortrail Been here awhile

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    Awwww another Hardley Abelson hurt butt!!:kat
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  2. ossadmr

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    Who licked the red off his candy ???????????????????????
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  3. Oilhed

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    The racing isn't boring cuz it's all Indians. It's Mees leading every lap and pulling away that makes it boring.
    And Kawi, Yamaha & H.D. could make a race motor or production race bike, too. They just don't want to.
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  4. villageidiot

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    He’s not super fast around the big tracks, but I bet he’d give a run for the money vs a flat tracker
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  5. old17p

    old17p Been here awhile

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    Wrong to a degree. His Yamaha twin was in a frame configured as close to speedway geometry as possible. He was racing against Sprint CR's,
    Trackmaster's and otherof the best flat track types available at the time, though they were all 250's!
  6. old17p

    old17p Been here awhile

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    And an almost direct quote "These Hondas winning all of the time is going to kill dirt track racing" Heard in the 80's in a Peoria, Illinois area H-D back room!
  7. villageidiot

    villageidiot Long timer

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    But he didn’t run a 500cc jawa against them either. I can put a puch moped engine in a speedway chassis, doesn’t make it a proper speedway bike.
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  8. Wa Ho Thuk

    Wa Ho Thuk Long timer

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    I have an old Puch moped motor in pieces if you have the frame :D
  9. Bonafide Bob

    Bonafide Bob Been here awhile

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  10. JerryAtrick

    JerryAtrick Been here awhile

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    I wonder how that back room talk might have evolved if Honda had stuck around instead of winning all the marbles and quickly quitting the game?
  11. villageidiot

    villageidiot Long timer

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    At one point in the not too distant past I had over 150 mopeds. Also had a few speedway bikes. Never thought that marriage should happen.
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  12. old17p

    old17p Been here awhile

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    And there are a number of opinions and "who to blames" for Honda's departure.
  13. DutchVDub

    DutchVDub Adventurous Pirate

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    Because the XR750 was a production motor?
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  14. old17p

    old17p Been here awhile

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    Good point Dub. Everyone except die hard Harley idiots know that the XR was never a production motor. I have done machine work on many XR and
    stock Harley street bike motors and can assure you that the alloys are not even similiar!
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  15. Cow Boy Brad

    Cow Boy Brad brad1098

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    What is the weight of the twins. Say the FTR 750, maybe an XR for comparison.
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  16. Wa Ho Thuk

    Wa Ho Thuk Long timer

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    310 LBS , I think actually the AMA and AFT used the weight of the XR to establish the minimum weight .
  17. Rich B

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    Yea, the XR was far removed from a run of the mill production motor........

    I remember doing a complete top end in a no-tell motel early one Sunday morning so we could race Sunday afternoon.........
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  18. Foot dragger

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    So how was it different having XR750's filling the field and winning every race for who knows how many years,nothing but a pack of XR's going around. Somehow with the name being Indian on the tank the sport is dieing and will never be any good? Your sour milk will go no where but down the drain.
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  19. DutchVDub

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    Exactly my point. The rules weren't changed just so Indian could bring in a race only motor, it was the same rules that allowed HD to run the XR750 for so long. Indian just took that same formula and applied modern tech to it. I'm also pretty sure the XG750 isn't at all a production motor, so HD is still playing by a different set of rules and just sucking at it.
  20. gks

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    Does anyone know if the XG750 motor allegedly available through HD dealers (I wonder if they've ever sold one?) comes with the V&H DOHC heads or the factory SOHC versions?