2018 KTM Rally

Discussion in 'Australia' started by poppy, Oct 24, 2017.

  1. darren70

    darren70 I don't own a KTM

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    I got a text and pic from daily waters and it was all smiles there too.
    I would say heaps of good going on and the little bad is getting attention.
  2. poppy

    poppy Slow and Steady

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    The only thing is, it is a ride, not a race.

    On the 1st rally there were hard and easy track. On the opening night with everyone together they ask how many would be doing the haed track. I reckon nearly every arm went up. They were a little surprised. I reckon on the second day the numbers halved and got less and less as the week progressed for the hard tracks.

    They had everyone leave at alotted times of your choosing. Everyone seemed to sort themselves out. The people that wanted a clear track and no dust left 1st and so on. On the tracks, you wanted a rest or a chat or to take photo's, you stopped. Someone needed a hand you helped. Was great to be a part of. You could go as fast or as slow as you wanted or needed, there wasn't any pressure except from yourself. You wanted a late start to have breaky or needed a sleep in and were prepaired to get in latter, if that floated your boat, that is what you did. We started late one morning waiting for tyre changes and you would catch up with people that had left early on the track somewhere, have a yak and be on your way.

    I am not big on paying for rides, but was glad i did. Meet some great people, some from here some not, and had an awesome time. I hope it continues to be as good in the future.
  3. robbiedobbie

    robbiedobbie Robbiemyboy

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    I have been on a few rally/safari's including a BMW Safari where one person died :( others were injured too, and i accept that it is not the brands fault, especially during events like these. I am sorry anyone got hurt on this rally and I hope they recover quickly. I hate to say this (i really do) but KTM more than any other brand attracts hero's. The image created is that as soon as you buy one and all of a sudden you are a better rider than just about anyone else "ready to race". In fairness that is true for the very many the majority of fantastic riders who own these bikes. Sadly, however I would contend thats this has created more of a clique than any other brand. Now technology plays its part in letting us believe we are better than we really are, but it will catch up with us eventually, and i think from what i have read so far and without knowing the full story, most accidents/incidents were avoidable (as they normally are). The thing is that that three things have gone wrong here. 1. The advertising, marketing etc has created an impression that this event is a free for al. 2. The organisers have failed to ensure that proper etiquette is observed. 3. The conditions experienced (dust) have not been adequately compensated for in the daily routes.

    As riders we are a very disparate group, but the one thing we all have in common is a the love of what we do, and that it to ride. Whether that is fast, slow or in a group or as individuals it is all we have in common. If that is true, then surely we have responsibility to each other to make sure we enjoy it; after all why do it otherwise?
  4. bikeroz

    bikeroz Long timer

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    First instinct is not to judge everyone by what is going down on this event and what gets to the media. The accident tally is concerning though and something that sounds like it is being addressed.
    I have participated in quite a few paid-for-the-luxury events. BMW and non-BMW, but not KTM. Both were fantastically coordinated and without giving away the secrets of those organizers, they have learned the hard way. KTM being new to these type of events, it will get better in future and I'm sure they will have a post mortem to try and better their reputation if they want to continue with it. If anything, I sincerely hope there is not a fatal accident on this event, because there will be no coming back from it once press gets involved. Sounds like they have been read the riot act.

    BMW ran similar outback events and dust is always an issue. Cape York event a case in point that also started off with a few numbers on the wrong side. But that got sorted by mid-event.
    I am not a KTM rider, but I dare say there is probably 10% doing the wrong thing that gives the other 90% a bad rep. Keep that in mind.
  5. bigborett

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    Sort of shot from the hip with the 300 figure. Probably not that far off once all the support riders etc. are thrown in though.
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  6. bigborett

    bigborett Hipster

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    Yeah you blokes are right.
    I have it on good authority that on the first day Jeff Liesk got up there to address the riders and said, "alright you softc@#$^, we sold you these bikes ready to race and you better damn well race them. If we're going down, we're going down fast and in a blaze of glory. Lets see if we can beat the BMW boys on the most injured riders on a Rally. We haven't been doing very well up to date, the last two have been way to incident free. Anyone that's to slow, just past them, it'll wake them up a little. Shouldn't be riding one of our bikes if that's the way they are riding anyway.
    You blokes that went to bed early last night. There is cold beer over there, get one into you before you head off and don't be such girls tonight.
    One last thing before you head off boys, just remember, first to the gate wins, everyone after that is just a loser.
    Now into it."

    Your right, all the KTM management and the riders, all dickheads.

    The previous rallys have been run very professionally with all the appropriate warnings, safety checks and what have yous. They are not idiots.
    Christ, this time a dealer had to go through the rally checklist for your bike to ok it before it could be approved.

    Accidents happen boys. Go back to riding with your HiViz vests on in the buddy system. I think they had double swags for you boys.
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  7. Big Willy

    Big Willy Gen. Italia

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    Like Troy said earlier, surprised that the number of incidents isn't larger.

    Many rides that I've been on with riders numbering between 2 and 30, ALWAYS end up with at least one incident, whether it be hospital worthy or not...and it can easily be swayed either way depending on luck more than skill

    I've come around a corner many times to see a rider coming back onto the track after overshooting a corner and overshot many a corner myself.

    So to put it in perspective, for the numbers involved, it aint really a lot.

    And remember..."it aint fun unless you're giving it some" :ricky
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  8. moto74

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    This was how it worked on the 1st NZ one. There were a couple of incidents with guys going too quick around stock on the road, but otherwise it ran smoothly.
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    0405canvet Long timer

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    Love the comments from guys not on the Rally! They have no idea what it takes logistically in this environment! Take the organisation of a normal rally and multiply by five! Safety? How about three helicopters, medics before the riders, after the riders and among ( on bikes) the riders! Two rode trains carrying everything from a kitchen to a shower trailer. Now look on a map and find the most remote station in Australia, that is where we are spending tonight!
  10. KASUYAHO

    KASUYAHO Long timer

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  11. Mouse

    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    Oh yes, we've got no idea at all given it's the first time an event of this scale has been organised...

    I understand your bias but as Troy highlights somewhere above the sound of closing gates can echo for a long long time.
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  12. richo360

    richo360 Long timer

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    Just read through the last few pages.
    Mmmmm.
    Myself and two mates pulled out of the rally yesterday morning.
    We're now in Alice after slabbing it here ( mostly) over about 1200kms.
    Please continue with your synopsis. Interesting.
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  13. Bluetonguejak

    Bluetonguejak Pretend racer

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    Pulled-out?:ear
  14. bikeroz

    bikeroz Long timer

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    :eek2
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    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    And that is most interesting indeed Richo.

    Only reason I can think a bloke would pull out of a ride is safety... as in concern for one's own safety. That or it is so appallingly organised that the local rsl looks attractive than a bike ride. But canvet seems to assure us that's not the case....

    Oooohweeee and gee whiz!
  16. bigborett

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    They were obviously serving the wrong flavour beer and Richo though it prudent to bug out to Alice where a real drop could be obtained.
    Man does not live by bike alone.
  17. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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    I can see this thread getting worse before it never gets better.

    Wonder if Richo is wishing he was riding a 1200 GS or Crosstourer etc now for the long ride home! ;)
  18. bigborett

    bigborett Hipster

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    Pretty sure they were coming home through the Flinders. I reckon he'd still be happy with the SE.
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    troy safari carpente #501 Team f5oolery

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  20. darren70

    darren70 I don't own a KTM

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    Yeah i got a report that day three was a hard slog