2018 TAT Planning

Discussion in 'Americas' started by DeeGeeF, Feb 10, 2017.

  1. Old Hanker

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    I will begin the TAT late next August. I will be trailering down from London, Ontario thru Buffalo and connecting somewhere in Pennsylvannia. Does anyone have any first hand experience with that eastern portion of the TAT? Is it worth riding thru P.A or should I connect further south and west.?
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  2. RickB1975

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    I rode the entire TAT on an XR650L, then slabbed back from Oregon to PA. The XR is the perfect TAT bike, the DR would also be very good.

    I've ridden most of the PA section of Kevin's TAT. I've ridden it many times. It's actually not a bad ride. Nothing technical at all. There are some nice gravel roads but it's mostly paved. Some nice views and some nice forests. I've ridden most of PA to Winchester VA, and slabbed home in one day. It would be a nice warm up for the rest of the TAT if you ask me. I'm sure South of Winchester the track gets more interesting, if you haven't been to the mountains of Virginia, you should certainly do this. Depending on when you plan your trip, I could ride with you from PA south a day or more. Just PM me if your interested.
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  3. SATEX

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    I don't think most would find the DR650 too big for the TAT. There's no single track, and the low seat height helps in the slow stuff.
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  4. SATEX

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    Determine where you want to start, and then get help from advriders in the area. Ideally you could purchase in advance and get needed mods done.
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  5. Old Hanker

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    Thanks for the offer Rick, I guess what I am trying to figure out his this. We are experienced road riders and have ridden many of the roads in P.A and Virginia over the years on our roads bikes. Ideally we would like to find a connection point on the TAT, coming south from either Buffalo, or Detroit, that would eliminate as much pavement as possible as we headed west on theTAT. From what you’ve said I would assume that connection point would be at least south of Winchester.
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  6. Kenneth Winter

    Kenneth Winter He who falls.. Alot!

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    Hello My Name is Kenneth Winter.
    I live in the USA. TN.

    I am looking for a small group to ride the TAT with in 2018.
    May I join your conversation?
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  7. rkdwp

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    Hello, I'm planning a 2018 TAT ride starting from New York City in late August. I'm hoping this won't be too late in the season to make it all the way to the Pacific & that I will miss the wet late summer weather in the east & hottest weeks in the southwest. I've read reports of folks finishing in late September or even early October, maybe encountering some snow in Oregon, but I'd appreciate any advice from those who have experience. I'll be riding solo on a 690 Enduro and will camp as much as possible, probably hotel every few days for laundry, etc. I'll be following a mix of Kevin & Sam's tracks with some reroutes to parts of the UTBDR. I'd be interested in riding sections with others if schedules & attitudes align. I have riding experience offroad but am by no means an expert. I look forward to hearing about everyone's preparation & adventures!
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  8. AT Blizzard

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    I stayed at the TAT Shak -- and they had a long drive way and it looked like areas to park around it. I don't know if the owner is amenable to staging a truck/trailer there -- but you could ask.

    http://www.tat-shak.com

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  9. VStromNC

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    Too early to start 2018 TAT Roll Call & Schedule thread?
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  10. sperduton

    sperduton Been here awhile

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    If you are following Kevins tracks out of LIberty State Park.,The blue line in NJ portion passes within a block of my house. Hit me up if you need anything. That would probably be your first day riding. PM me for contact info
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  11. Tewster2

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    Something to think about...August across Oklahoma, in the sand and mud, will be boiling hot.
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  12. VStromNC

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    Thanks for the info. I am going to have to see where exactly TAT Shack is at the start of the Ozark Nat'l Forest TAT section. I thought about skipping some sections like OK but I figure If I am going to do the TAT, I decided that I will ride the full sections as many of the inmates have already done.

    This is my second year of TAT as last year, 4 of us rode from Andrews NC and quit after about 1266 miles of TAT after about 6 days not counting another 1017 miles of slabbing to Andrews and slabbing back home from about 100 miles away from the start of the Ozark Nat'l Forest section back to Charlotte, NC.

    I rode my Husky Terra 650 and the bike performed flawlessly with fresh set of Kenda K270 tires front and rear. This is my tire of choice for TAT. Colorado and Oregon, I don't know yet. The tires were only little less than 1/2 worn after all the miles and slabbing home. I still ride on it but I plan to put on a fresh set since you can get both tires shipped for around $100.00 total or less.

    I plan to ride solo this year to enjoy the ride more but would enjoy any type of scheduled meet up with others or join a smaller group. My plans are to leave around first week of June and start at the Ozark Nat'l Forest. I plan to go as far as I can for about 10-12 days and turnaround. Repeat the remaining sections again in 2019. I maybe able to pickup another rider as I head from Charlotte to ONF since I plan to trailer my bike this time versus slabbing 733 miles on my Terra.

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  13. Sealevel740

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    I'm planning to retry the TAT before it gets too hot starting late May/early June 2018 & looking for a partner(s). Long story short, I rode it last summer solo in July from VA on a loaded '11 1200GS & made it to OK where I diverted to Denver to get my bent front rim fixed. I ended up buying a new gsa there & quickly realized I had no business on that bike in the Rockies alone before I got used to it so I bailed & slabbed it to CA & back. I want to complete the TAT because I missed out on the best part but I know that it's much wiser to have a partner & help each other. I could easily skip to UT to save time but I'll still ride with someone who wants to go from NC because they haven't done it yet.

    FYI, the areas I saw from Asheville, NC to OK was a zig-zag route (gpsKevin's garmin basecamp tracks) using a lot of paved roads that connected brief stretches of dirt/gravel roads that usually weren't very interesting. So, you definitely need an enduro at least to ride on the road. I brought camping gear but by the end of the day in 100 degree heat I wanted a bed, bathroom & A/C so I ended up shipping all that gear home to lighten my load. Aluminum panniers is definitely the way to go, my plastic ones with plastic mounts got all f'd up after 2 off road wrecks & I didn't even get to the hard part in the Rockies. I learned a lot on that trip & made mistakes we can learn from but quickly realized that completing the TAT would be one hell of an accomplishment!

    I'm also interested in doing the new Mid-Atlantic Backcountry Discovery Route at some point this year, possibly April, if anybody's interested.
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  14. VStromNC

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    Sealevel740,

    Lol, I hear you about the zigzag tracks as this is what my Garmin showed before our group turned around about 100 miles from reaching the Ozark National Forest. The bottom tracks represent the zig/zag tracks following combination of Sam's and Kevin GPS tracks. The top track is where I turned around and slabbed back to Charlotte on I-40. To put this into perspective: Zig/Zag tracks were 1266 miles from Andrews, NC to where we turned around after 6 days plus another 284 miles from my house to get to Andrews, NC (total 1550 miles). To go back home, I slabbed on the Interstate (I-40) only 733 miles to get back to Charlotte, NC or in 2 days. I still enjoyed it and will be continuing from the Ozark National Forest this summer. We started calling some of the zig/zag tracks "Gratuitous TAT' since we would sometimes go 3 to 5 miles or more just to hit a stretch of gravel or fire roads but ever so slowly making our way westward.

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  15. txmxrider

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    I hope it's okay with the OP to hijack this thread to ask a few questions about TaT planning. I'm planning to ride the western TaT from Trinidad CO to the coast and there seems to be three routes out there: Sam's original, Sam's updated (which skips NV and includes ID), and gpsKevin. If you had to compare the three routes by level of difficulty, in what order would you rank them? I've inferred from things I've read that Sam's updated route was intended to route around the sand and talc in NV, which I can understand, however I'm looking for something that's challenging. gpsKevin's routes has some singletrack that might be fun, especially around Moab, and there's even an 80 mile section of singletrack west of Crater Lake that has my interest. Unlike many people I'd rather ride the more difficult route of the three. Not to offend anyone but I just don't think I'd get much satisfaction riding a "trail" that can be ridden by a Harley or a sidecar rig. Since I can't see Sam's routes to judge I'm leaning toward gpsKevin's route solely because it has the singletrack stuff identified. If anyone has experience with all three routes I'd like to hear your opinion about how they compare in difficulty with the idea being that more challenging is better.

    Another question I have is the length of time required to get from Trinidad to the coast. I hear two days per state but not sure exactly which of the three routes that applies to. I suspect that if I do much singletrack I'll have to allow additional time. I have allocated nine days of riding with three "extra" days to have in reserve in case I need to hole up due to bad weather, bike repairs, or to spend exploring off the TaT (like around Moab or Crater Lake). gpsKevin has 22 maps for Trinidad to OR. Nine days would mean I'd have to clear a minimum of two of his maps per day and three maps at least a couple of days. Even packing light and moving fast that may be unrealistic so looking for some feedback from someone who's been there.

    And one more question if I may. I've been reading through a lot of posts about TaT planning on the archived pages and I haven't seen anyone mention bear canisters or bear spray. Of course I'm still reading so maybe I haven't got to it yet, but is that a concern when camping on Forest Service and BLM land, particularly in CO and OR? I'm planning to carry a two day supply of food and wondering if I should pack it in a bear canister. Those things are kind of bulky so I don't want to use it if I don't have to.

    I appreciate any advice you can share.
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  16. ButchCoolidge

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    It took me 4 days to go from Trinidad to Moab but I had GPS issues and got "misplaced" a few times. One thing I learned is don't skimp on the GPS. Get a good one that can handle abuse. As for bears... I saw one small black bear the whole trip while I was riding. My advise would be not to carry food. I would always eat at a gas station or fast food before camping and I never brought food to where I camped.
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  17. txmxrider

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    Thanks Butch. I've haven't seen anyone yet mention anything about bear canisters so maybe I'm overthinking it. I like the idea of not having to pack food otoh I don't want to be stuck eat hot dogs out of those rotating thingys at the gas stations either! I'm now allowing 12 days maximum for actual trail days. I sure hope that's enough because on day 13 we'll be renting a box truck and heading back. Either we make it to Port Orford or we don't.
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  20. Mesamuley

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    I am planning to ride the TAT from my home in southern Utah to the coast in mid June 2018, rent a truck in Oregon and slab back as fast as possible. Would it be reasonable to accomplish this in less than 7 days?
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