2018 World Cup

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  1. Retro

    Retro Just the Facts Ma'am Super Moderator

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    I'll be in New Orleans, was looking for a Pub. Now I'll need to find a cheese shop.
  2. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    The latter.
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  3. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    I like Southgate but he showed his strategic naivety today. England needed to put it away in the first half they just lacked the ruthlessness and that is where Southgate needed to step in and change it up to dominate the mid-field.

    Contrast that with Deshamps who didn't give a fuck about anything but shutting down the mid field supply through DeBruyne and killing the game at 1-0. And talking of France it's remarkable they've made three World Cup finals and iirc three European finals in the last twenty years. This from a nation that you wouldn't call a power house in the domestic leagues (do the French even like sport outside of motor racing?).

    I don't see Croatia beating them either. France has a habit of winning with teams and a style you can't recall a week later singular talents like Platini and Zidane excepted. I'd bet on 2-0 to France. I wish I was in Paris this weekend :D
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  4. 2old2Bbold

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    I don't know...from a guy who doesn't know any of the history of these two teams other than this tournament, I'd say Croatia has a good chance. They look really good to me.
  5. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    Football being what it is they definitely have a chance. But France looks a team deeper in talent and a manger who's tactical instinct is to keep the team compact and play on the counter through the pace of their forwards. I think he has Croatias number.

    Football is thin margins at this level though and a couple of those chances converted by England (Kane hitting the post?) and it's a different game
  6. makazica

    makazica Been here awhile

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    Oh, youre welcome to underestimate Croatia again.
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  7. BGil

    BGil Been here awhile

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    I'm certainly rooting for Croatia!
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  8. Thraan

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    Lots of French players are from Africa originally, or their parents are at least. That's where at least part of their soccer fervour comes from. And the French are also mad about the cycling and the rugby.

    The French are heavy favorites, and rightly so. They have a stronger midfield than the English or Croatians, and Croatia will be tired after three consecutive 120 minute come-from-behind games. But Modric and team are gritty and will dig deep, and on the day anything can happen. I'll be cheering for them, not least because Lovren plays for Liverpool.
  9. Peels

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    Ill be Cheering for France...no real reason... Pogba fan of course.... Plus my sisters affinity for Giroud. Theyre my last team that was still in the brackets up to now. LOL.

    I wont be mad at all to see a shock upset by Croatia. thats what makes football, football. What a story it would be for them....and already is...honestly.
  10. wxwax

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    Fifty players at this World Cup were born or raised in France. That's more than any other country.

    The French don't like sports? Where do you get these ideas? :scratch

  11. vato_loco

    vato_loco Sometimes good guys don't wear white

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    This French squad is much more cohesive and disciplined than their 2010 band of malcontents. As you recall, the 2010 team distintegrated into open revolt against coach Domenech, flaming out in the group stage. They resembled disgruntled workers at a Renault factory, on strike for more vacation time (in addition to their 4 weeks).

    Under current coach Deschamps, the 2014 squad did marginally better but they've since grown into a team that rightfully deserves a place at the '18 final match. Mbappe, Griezmann, Pogba, Lloris, call me impressed.

    But I think I'll be rooting for the scrappy Croatians on Sunday, mostly because they're the underdogs and it would be great to see someone new win the tournament.
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  12. makazica

    makazica Been here awhile

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    A guy who may be their best player didn't even get a mention in your post. :lol3 Shows how criminally underrated his position is.
  14. makazica

    makazica Been here awhile

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    And who are you talking about?
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    Animo Been n00b awhile

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    Most likely Ivan Perišić who plays for Inter.

    Mateo Kovačić with Real Madrid ain't bad either :lol3

    They have a great lineup.
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    And Lovren with 'Pool
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  17. makazica

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    I was reffering to Thraan’s post about France having a better midfield than England and Croatia...

    If you look at the playmaking part of the midfield, nobody in the world has modric or rakitic caliber players. Especially not two of them. And with brozovic who is a box to box midfielder playing in a very demanding italian league acting as a safety linking defence and midfield, liberating modric and rakitic of some of defensive duties...well I believe no team in this WC has that.

    If you look at the attacking midfielders, sure perisic is a great player...but to be honest...many teams have players of that quality and profile...Rebic on the right side...well...youll hear more about Ante Rebic in the coming years...

    And since I analysed the whole midfield I can go on...mandzukic, a very special player. I watched him as a 16 year old in Zagreb and later at Dinamo Zagreb...that is one crazy son of a bitch. Couldnt care less if hes playing CL finals or a local charity match. Never satisfied. Can play as a defender as well as a striker. In his time in croatial league he singlehandedly used to beat the shit of the whole defence of the opposing team...and managed to score with an overhead kick. That is one underrated there. The amount of energy he takes out of the defensive players can not be described.

    Vida...underrated too. Watch him. The amount of dirty work... fast, strong, can jump, learned how to position on the field...

    Lovren...he proved hes a top 10 defender in the world. Tall, strong, reads play well, can play with ball in his feet...world class defender.

    Vrsaljko...Cholo schooled him good, will be a top full back in the coming years.

    Kovacic need to go to a team where he will start 70% of the games in a season or he will vanish. Needs to learn how to play without a ball in his feet. Positioning, positioning, positioning. All is well when going forward but in the transition phase and defensive phase he still needs to learn. Italian club would be a good move for him...Napoli maybe?

    Strinic/Pivaric...not the level as the rest of the team.

    Kramaric...needs another good season at a club to prosper but a great potential.

    Anyway...I wish of a good match with France, I wish they give 120%...with all the problems my little country faces, the attitude, organisation and sacrifice this team is shoving is giving me hope that we as a nation could be more unite and start solving shit we need to sort to become a more stabile, fairer and prosperous country.

    AJMOOO!!
  18. Animo

    Animo Been n00b awhile

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    Go Hrvatska!!!!!!!

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    cant really disagree there @makazica . Obvious you have some homegrown pride too... theyre going to need all the quality you believe they possess to get through it.

    A Big part of me hopes they do.... Its always good to see a team who thinks theyre the best be reminded that the best never stop trying to be better.....
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  20. Animo

    Animo Been n00b awhile

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    As long as Croatia believes that France is the dangerous foe that they really are they will not let down. I am sure they know.

    Both my parents were born in Croatia, but I had them as the Word Cup winners from the beginning of the tournament only because of their players.

    We shall see. As I always say, "It's the World Cup, you'll never really know who is going to win."

    p.s.: I was born in Italy, and we suck!
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