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Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by CaptnJim, Jan 10, 2018.
Yep, that ear is awesome!
Well, I can't argue with that! Of course, I may be biased. The woman who first opened his cage for us said, "Some people are turned off by his ear."
"That ear is part of his great personality!" Here's a shot I took today...
No photo manipulation, just some good light coming from the side, and a bit of light from behind (in our motorhome).
While we do think he is a handsome boy, this is what hooked me...
He is a snuggly boy - seems to know just what "his people" need.
Not ready to take him out on the scoots, though. Yet.
Take your time! The cat is amazing. The ear is a big plus in my book. :)
Are both ears functional? I had a dog with only one working, he could never find any noises. Other dogs would bark but he never knew where they were.
Yep, he seems to hear fine with both ears, but can't "rotate" the wonky ear. Very alert.
Nothing to do with the question, I just like the, "Hey - let me in!" attitude.
Circumnavigating the White Tank Mountains today...
No twisties. Desert scenery. A 4-lane. You'd think it wouldn't be my thing, but we enjoyed it... like having the Sun Valley Parkway all to ourselves...
No, we didn't take Rufus. But...
25 degrees and slick spots here. Ugh. I should have stayed in Florida longer.
I get that. When we used to divide our time between SD and TX, it didn't seem to matter when we came back north in the spring - there would be another snow storm in the Black Hills. When grousing about it one time, a friend said to me, "You think it's bad for you coming back from the warmth? We've been here all winter and we're tired of this shit!" While not eloquent, it did drive the point home.
Yeah, I put my snow shovels away and it snowed the next day. They are back in the shed and staying there no matter what!!!
I knew we were living in the right place when the local hardware stores don't carry snow shovels. A friend once told me: "Strap a snow shovel to the front of your motorhome; drive south until someone asks "What is that thing?" You're home."
The second winter I was in Houston I had gone to a Christmas party on the opposite side of town which put me about 30 miles from home. So I stayed at a friend's house near the party afterwards only to wake up to a couple of inches of snow on the ground. So I pulled out my Key Map to find a way to get home without going through downtown (I'd already seen enough to know there was no way I wanted use the Pierce Elevated with idiots who slam on their brakes when they feel a loss of traction). Once I'd plotted my route and after the defroster had a chance to loosen the ice/snow on the windshield I reached in the back and pulled out my ice scraper. As I cleared my windshield a guy came out of the condo complex and watched for a moment. Then said "that's really cool, what it it?"
My reply "an ice scraper".
His reponse "where would I get something like that".
Me "Walmart, any auto store but if you have a Teflon coated pancake turner you can use it."
Him "cool, thanks I was going to use hot water" as he turned to go back into his unit.
I quickly finished and got the hell out of that parking lot before he returned because I sure didn't want to be on the road with that guy.
Another day, another direction - out past the racetrack that used to be called PIR...
Another nice day in the desert...
Last full day of winter. I have been thinking about some time on the water... getting itchy feet, I guess.
1st day of spring here brought snow. We may get more tomorrow, but it is supposed to improve after that. Rode 120 miles on the Reflex yesterday, mid-thirties up to 40 degrees.
The Blonde wanted to do some retail therapy today. While I do find it exciting to follow her around and hope to find a "guy chair" while she tries clothes on (insert sarcasm emoji here), we both decided it would be better if I went off and did my own thing. I decided to check out some scooters...
I sat on the Yamaha Xmax... I was surprised that it didn't feel comfortable.
While my legs are barely long enough to go from my ass to the ground when standing, I couldn't find a comfortable foot position on the floorboards. And, it was a bit of a stretch to the ground while seated.
I decided to try on a Burgman 400, expecting it to feel huge. It didn't. Very comfortable. Lower seat height than the Xmax, but more legroom.
It was time to pick up the Blonde, and she suggested we check out a Vespa. Fortunately, we didn't have to drive all the way to Scottsdale, since that dealership opened another branch much closer to us. I was pleasantly surprised with the Vespas...
The salesman offered to "give us some numbers"... yes, it was nearly $2k in tax and fees. I understand sales tax - you have to pay that. I could even understand something for freight and set-up, on which they were quite high. But, the $395 document fee? "You want to charge me nearly $400 to write up the sale??" Of course, they offered to "discount" that grand total. "No shit?"
No, we didn't bring home new scoots. But, I may be more interested in "shopping around." I sure do like my PCX, though.
Yeah, a whole post about scooters! One in a row!
Thanks for the report Capt.
On my Xmax ride I noticed that they sit a little taller than I would like. Myself, I was surprised how many positions I felt comfortable with my feet. Especially that I could bring them back far enough to use my legs to raise up off the seat (for railroad tracks, etc.). 5'8" 30" inseam.
While there, I sat on a Burgman 400 and a Majesty. Those both felt larger than what I'm looking for at this time.
Also sat on a PCX a few days ago. I really like how the PCX feels, but I'm just not sure it will cruise at what I "think" I want to cruise at.
I sat on a Burgman 200 last summer and thought it felt really good.
OK .........now to the ACTUAL purpose of my post. How did the Vespas feel sitting on them? Your two pictures (of Vespas) show the two different styles of seats that Vespa offers. The 300cc GTS and GTV are about the same length as the PCX and would fit nicely in my short box pickup. I'm planning on riding up to Portland next week when the wx improves and give the Vespas a sit and maybe a demo ride.
Of the four that I "test sat" today, the Vespa GTS 300 would be my choice. I checked them out a few years ago, but wasn't in the "considering" mode. I'm about 5'9", also with a 30" inseam. I have to say, I haven't cared much for the "flat floor" scooters in the past, so the Vespa surprised me. Joan has concerns about the 12" wheels, but from all I've read, I don't think that would be a problem. Well, other than more revolutions per mile likely means not as many miles between tire changes. I found the seat on the Super more comfortable than the GTV (Vintage).
The seat height difference between the Xmax and the Burgman 400 definitely had me favoring the Burgman.
Probably is because it "feels like home," but I still find the PCX very comfortable.
We were out in the car today, so I was wearing shorts and a short sleeve shirt - the Vespa dealer offered me a test ride when I come back with riding gear. I was surprised at how little room there is under the seat of the Vespa - definitely more room in the PCX.
There is definitely a sweet spot of size, weight, and capability. For the type of riding we do, the 65 mph +/- top speed of the PCX just works. For us. We rarely ride above 55 mph, but it is nice to have a bit more if you need it.
Burgman has cutouts on the side which make it much easier to flat foot compared to many other scooters.
Vespa GTV seat looks really good but many people find that the fixed split seat isn't in the right position for their comfort. Most common mod on a GTV is to put a GTS seat on it. Fortunately all the GTS and GTV seats are interchangeable with each other. You can also swap seats with a GT which some people do because that seat is narrower so the vertically challenged find it easier to flat foot. I've got the solo sports seat on my GTS which I find the most comfortable of the Vespa seat options though the stock seat is pretty good. The solo sports seat gives me more position options especially since I don't like to carry a passenger so having it on is a good excuse for not giving someone a ride.
12" wheels are not a problem though some people find it necessary to adjust to them since the scoot is a little more nimble than larger wheels. Some folks also swap them out for the MP3's 13" wheels. Depending on how you ride and what tire you put on it you can get anywhere from 3,000 on the rear to 7,000 and usually double that on the front. I usually have Michelins and get around 6,000 on the rear and 12,000 on the front. Pirellis got me about 1,000 less front and I swapped to a Michelin when I changed the rear so I don't know how much the front would get. Heideneau got about the same as the Michelins but didn't ride as well on paved roads, better though on dirt.
Great report........thanks Capt. I hope you can work in a test ride on the GTS 300.
Now if Honda would just bump the new PCX up to about 200cc and bring it into the states, I think there'd be some happy folks!
The floorboard angle of the xmax didn't fit me either. Nor did the Forza. The Burgman, yes, just like my Reflex.
I need to test ride a Vespa.