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Discussion in 'Australia' started by podge NT, Feb 20, 2012.
No the regular one. Lasts well, good grip
Yep, the STR didn't look much chop......these look way tastier
These tires are good, had them on my 990 and I would fit them again.
Doesn’t seem like the Tiger 800 is getting much attention these days in Oz, what is the general consensus on its relevance in today’s marketplace or is it just because it’s now an 8 year old design that no one is posting in this thread?
For you owners out there, how is it as a cross australia dirt tourer and in particular how does it handle sand? Seems like the steep steering head angle could make it a bit of a handful?
I reckon we are all too busy riding to spend a lot of time on the internet. Yep the third generation of an 8 year old design is pretty boring. Nothing much goes wrong. It does the job of long distance touring well. A few of us have crossed the island on them or gone around the lap.
Seriously though the Tiger is a nice bike that is perhaps slightly more road oriented than your 990. It is a lot more civilized than the 990 for sure. I use about 20% less fuel than my mate's 990, it pulls from way lower in higher gears without the motor complaining like the 990 does.
Deep sand? The Tiger handles it better than the F800s I have ridden with. The steering angle is steep on paper , but it doesn't seem to head shake when decelerating in soft stuff. No idea why? The AT and 990 feel like barges trying to turn in tight stuff compared to the Tiger. Swings/roundabouts etc.
Tennerod is over your way and is considering swapping to a smaller bike. Why don't you ask him for a test ride.
Thanks XR Man for the reply.
I sold the 990 and bought a second hand 1190 EDS (17/19 wheels) a while ago to ride back from NSW with a mate, but am going to sell it now as its too road focussed for what I want to do now back home. Its a nice bike and really quick, but you are right the 990/1190 do feel like barges compared to the Tiger in the tight stuff, the Tiger feels a lot more nimble and lighter as I test rode the store 2018 XCA off road recently (Gravel and one section of single track but no deep sand). The KTMS feel very planted off road on gravel, perhaps a bit too easy to ride and not as fun as the Tiger, but that might just because it feels lighter and more twitchy. Its fun if you are confident off-road in a good way - more entertaining I thought and that engine brings a level of excitement to the whole package that you don't get with the KTMs, it spins up so easily and sounds great.
The only other criticism of the Tiger would be the heat that it puts out to the seat and your legs. I was in Draggin jeans in 25 degree C on the test ride, and it was noticeable for sure, might be better with some proper pants with ventilation.
I am in SW Victoria and right now any heat would be welcomed.
I haven't even seen a 18 model yet , let alone ridden one.
Some of the Yanks have attained good results with heavier springs and valving for off -road stuff for the gen 2 models WP suspension units.
The best feature for the Tiger is the CC for long days in the saddle. If you have never had it, you won't appreciate it though.
I appreciate the CC - I fitted one to the 1190 before I left Flodder's place in Albury, wouldn't buy another Adventure bike without one or fitting one. Makes long road kms much better and saves your licence! The 2018 is much the same suspension wise as the 2017, its definitely softer than the KTMs, but that means its more comfortable too, I'm only 79kg so stock is fine generally.
Snap! I am 79 kg too and the stock suspension is fine for me. I rode across the Great Central road with about 20-30 kg of gear added and it handled it fine. I did a few hours at 130 KPH and I noticed the rebound at the rear started to fade.
I'm not surprised - I think it would happen to most bikes!
A very underestimated bike... I’ve got an 1190r in Oz which I toured Europe on in 2016... Now have an XCX IN England that Is a peach... toured twice on it fully 2 up fully loaded and lovin it... so much easier “ lighter” to throw around... only let me down once in Italy on a 45 deg day when the ignition barrel got so hot it played havoc with the immobiliser.. a wet rag on the ignition and it fired straight up... no more issues .. except 2 broken spokes that are sorted now....currently touring Ireland on the XCX
Too much to type, fantastic across oz bike from twin track to sand to long wide open dirt roads.
Basically anything but serious single track.
Good to know, noticed your ride reports across and back a few times Rod, certainly looks like it does the job!
Perhaps its greatest failing is that it is not made by a German/Austrian factory, nor by a Japanese factory ( though made in Thailand should almost make it in the rising sun category). I know from my own pre-ownership attitude to Triumph, a lot of riders think of it as a either quirky high maintenance euro bike (jap owners view), or inferior to the other euros because it got bad press in magazine comparos to the F800GS and 990 (off road reviews with no luggage= not real world conditions ).
I was looking for a road bike that would handle dirt roads better than my Vstrom 650. I didn't want a large capacity bike, but I wanted better suspension for potholes/corrugations and tar snakes. Having read that the F800GS and the Tiger Mk1 needed suspension work, I discounted them. The 990 KTM just seemed too maintenance intensive and a bit too dirt oriented for what I was looking for ( been there; done that). I must admit my interest in Triumph was raised by Philth and crew videos doing a lap of OZ on Tigers.
The perfect storm occurred in 2015 when the Mk2 was tested and magazine reports were published that it was pretty good at the same time as I had money to burn. Even then I was quite happy to continue with my modified V- strom suspension. Stupidly I went to a Triumph dealer with a mate who wanted to test a Thruxton. The dealer asked what I wanted to test ride. I wasn't keen, but he said someone has to ride with the mate, so he gave me Tiger 800 XCx to ride. Initially I didn't like the triple all that much, but realized that it was me, not the engine. The first railway crossing it floated over, the steering was more precise and the brakes way better than the Suzuki.
After a week or so I decided to buy the Tiger and my wife told me that I deserved it. ( Who is this woman and what has she done with my wife?)
The Tiger Mk2 has some design deficiencies, some of which have been sorted in the Mk3. I don't know if they have attended to the fragile front fender attachment points and the position of the main fuse/ starter solenoid where it can get wet and corrodes. I would have liked to see the pillion pegs and grips easily removable too.
We have a lot in common XRMan! My wife is telling me to buy it because I spend too much time working and not enjoying the fruits of my labour, but I do need to move something out of the shed to make room. I often hear the comment 'Triumphs all leak oil', well I have two now and my garage floor is spotless. I have a good relationship with the Triumph dealer which is important. Can't find satisfaction with the local KTM dealer lately unfortunately or might have had a 1090R in the garage already. Glad I held out to see the Mk 3 Tiger though.
I was on the verge of buying a road bike but thought that didn't make a lot of sense considering where I live. I wanted something to go riding with my road bike mates but still wanted to explore dirt roads. I've owned a KTM 950 and the Tiger does not have as much grunt nor is it as dirt orientated and while I've only owned the Tiger for a short time it seems perfect for what I want. Owning a XR 650 R and a KTM 300 EXC they cover anything more challenging that I'd feel comfortable taking the Tiger on.
Budget was also a consideration, I doubt I would have found a big adventure bike of any other brand with the lower kms and fruit mine has on it for the money I paid.
Hey Kipo OAM!
I am so surprised with you taking advantage of a broken down old bloke and trading your worn out DRZ ( except for the gears) to pick up that wonderfully farkled Tiger. Aussie Trev gave me the low down last week.
You will be able to do loops out into the Gawler Ranges etc. on the Tiger.
I must say I am also surprised by your defection from the Tiger Resistance Army to the Tiger Liberation Army, as per the stickers displayed on your car.
I'm a double agent
Do the same as mine cut shape and weld to top of original bars as shown in pic.
I hope you have been riding that Triumph as they like mud and rain.
Rain and mud here? It's been that dry, yesterday I saw a frog on his way to learn to swim lessons