beat this dead horse... ship or buy in Europe?

Discussion in 'EMEA' started by Ridercam, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. GiorgioXT

    GiorgioXT Long timer

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    I seriously doubt it. Pollution norms wreak havoc ...

    Mike, Single for single , I would rather take the low-cost way and look for an XT600E [​IMG]
    Cheap, light, easy to ride but still a pleasure in mountains.

    Back IT : In most EU countries IS possible to buy and register a vehicle as a foreigner not-resident , but for limited time ; in Italy is possible to ask for "EE" (escursionisti esteri) plate
    that could stand up to twelve months . In Germany and France should be something similar.
    EU regulamentation ask the owner of a foreign plated vehicle to convert to a local plate after 12 months of permanence , but since nobody could verify that the vehicle never went outside EU during
    this period is a norm really never enforced ; happens e.g. for Albanian, Bosnia-Hercegnovi- Moldavia or FYROM plated-vehicles , we have lot of people living and working in Italy that keeps the vehicle plated for dozens year, Just keep it insured with green card. Actually is not possible to check vehicle revisions between EU states, so long for foreign ones ...
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  2. glitch_oz

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    Not sure if the XT6 (or 660R) was ever sold in the US as it sounds like MIchael wants to register the bike in the US, then ship across like the earlier VStrom, keeping it on US plates.
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  3. MichaelJ

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    There are a few - unfortunately the saddle heights are at armpit level for me - and, while I'm heavy enough to pack the suspension down a bit, I'm not that heavy.

    The G310GS looks interesting. I've looked at the F/G560GSes, but the new ones are more than I want to spend, and the good used ones are more than a new G310. A local dealer has a 2009 (low mileage, low suspension) and is asking about $6,400. For a 9 year old bike.

    And yes - I'd be looking to keep US registry on it. Simpler and cheaper for me in the long run. Plus there's the the fact that US plates are an instant conversation starter. :D
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  4. hansen

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    That's a crucial point IMHO, and one of the reasons why I took my bike with the German plate over the pond to Canada in 1991.
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  5. glitch_oz

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    Looks like they've finished the G650GS in the US as well (the last sold in 2015 here in Aus IIRC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_G650GS
    KBB is listing 2013 models (retail ) at ~$5500
    Maybe a serious offer at a more realistic price would bring that 650 back to duty?
    I sure liked the 310 but found it lacking in grunt, partially caused by the tall gearing of 1.+2. cog.

    A DR650 would be lighter than the 310 and can be made lower than the 310 as well with cheap dogbones....just another idea and a bike common to the US+EU markets.


    The conversation starter :-) ...reminds me of the "Germanic Corner", the nightly congregation of Germans/Austrians/Swiss at those camp sites in New Zealand, where one Euro-plated bike attracts the next, like moths to light.
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  6. hansen

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    I'm travelling to experience a country and its people, not to find home away from home. Therefore I try to avoid said congregrations. ;)
    Back in '91 my plate was the only European plate I have seen in six weeks, but things have changed since then. In 2015 on the Faroe Islands there was one Hungarian plate apart from my German plate, but I have seen three American plates on the Islands in just ten days.
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  7. MichaelJ

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    Thanks for that - hadn't thought of lowering one. Just looked on Craigslist and there's one not too far from me that the owner is asking $4K for a 2003 - which sounds absurdly high.

    The 310's gearing is just a sprocket swap - so not an issue. I'd look for a storage place closer to/in the Alps, though. Heidelberg would be a schlep on the 310.
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  8. nickguzzi

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    Add a few days on to your tour, use the back roads and have even more riding pleasure. There is a choice available.

    My BiL rides from Frankfurt to Heidelberg on his push bike. And he doesn't consider himself a cyclist.
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  9. Frgich

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    BiL deserved a beer in the end ;)
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  10. nickguzzi

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    He is fond of his beer.
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  11. jfink

    jfink Can't get there from here

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    So, are there any yanks who have purchased and stored, who want to chip in here? Thinking about this and have an address in France potentially.
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    jfink Can't get there from here

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    Thanks Glitch
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  14. Ridercam

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    This whole thing is an experiment for me. I like the concept we are trying to for too. Let me get through May and my first European ride - i or my quality friends may be interested in what is being proposed.
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  15. Ridercam

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    Once again - thanks for the encouragement on this thread and others who have got me thinking. I am quite excited and will be shipping the old BMW in 2 weeks. I will have 8 to 10 days in late May to explore and ride. To many choices for my first time on two wheels there. I hope I meet up with a few of you along this next set of adventures.
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  16. MichaelJ

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    Tell me about it. Riding there annually since 2002 and the list keeps getting longer.
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  17. nickguzzi

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    Same here, 4 times a year at least, and since very early 80's - sometimes up to 14 weeks a year. I may even break the 500 weeks barrier this year.

    Lots of routes I have done more than once. But often when looking to repeat a nice road I remember from years ago, I end up taking the "wrong"* turn onto a different road, which leads to somewhere else that is entirely new.
    ... and most of my pootling is just in France.

    *in the sorts of regions we are talking about, there is really no such thing as a wrong turn, unless it is on to a motorway. Even then, they can be fairly spectacular.
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  18. MichaelJ

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    +1
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  19. Ridercam

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    Getting close now. Riding down to Los Angeles to drop and ship. Washed the bike for a visual inspection. Now to adjust the valves and get the bags on. Vilia will be quite happy going back home to Germany for a visit.

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  20. Its not Ginger!

    Its not Ginger! Been here awhile

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    What about the NC750X Honda, far from a true off road bike, but also relatively light with the weight carried low down, should be OK for unpaved roads, powerful enough with good low down drive and very economical.....

    ....but I have to admit when I test rode one as a potential commuting bike I found it to be the most dull bike I had ever ridden (although I may well find the 310GS more boring if I were to try it) It made my 650 V-Strom feel like a thoroughbred performance machine....

    ....but as soon as you throw some loose ground under an off road novice like me pretty much any bike will feel exciting.
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