BMW R100RS #2, The Cologne Show Bike.

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Flash, Mar 14, 2005.

  1. Flash

    Flash Sand Boxer

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    One of the things I wanted to see in Daytona last week was this bike.

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    On display at BMW of Daytona is what is claimed to be R100RS #2. This bike was the centerpiece at the 1976 Cologne Moto Expo. At the time, it was a dramatic step for BMW and the first fully faired production motorcycle.

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    If this bike is indeed the Koln show bike, then this is the second time I've seen it. At the BMW display in 1976, you couldn't get near it, the bike was mobbed.

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    28 years later, I stood there, a foot away taking pictures and poking around the nooks and crannies.

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    The bike has been restored and the paint is that unique satin silver blue.

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    The blue anodized front calipers and Weimann rims painted to match with blue pinstripes were special to the RS.

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    The bike looked very sharp. Thee were some parts that were the later supercessions, but only a /7 dork such as myself would notice.

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    The price tag? $25.000.00. They also claim to have RS #1 as well.

    A bit of BMW history, in a sea of Harley Davidsons.
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  2. lkchris

    lkchris Albuquerque

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    Interesting that is has the USA reflectors on the rear fender but not on the forks.
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  3. Flash

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    Good eye. Now I know why the front end looked so clean.

    I would suspect the RS originally had the European rear plate bracket. During restoration, it was replaced with the US version, which has the two right angle tabs with holes for the US reflectors.

    Just a guess.
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  4. Josephvman

    Josephvman I'm the Decider

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    Flash,

    You absolutely made my week (and this on top the the '79 brochure!)

    I've only seen one original '77 in that silver/blue paint scheme, and it was a pretty ratty bike so I couldn't really get an idea of what the finish really looked like. Your pics capture that slightly matted paint finish better than any I've ever seen, and those are the first good pics of the blue calipers and pinstriped wheels I've seen. I'm in the proces of picking a paint color for my '79 RS, and I've been torn between the silver/blue of this bike and going with the '78 Motorsports paints scheme of white with the red headlamp trim and BMW motorsport pinstripes. After researching the cost of pinstriping the RS, and seeing these pics you've posted, I think I'm back on the silver/blue! I'm forwarding your pics to our bodyshop manager to see what's involved in reproducing that finish.

    Thanks again for the pics Flash, you da man!

    PS. There's a '77 RS in silver/blue that just posted on Ebay today that looks like a pretty nice bike. Here's the link:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=49977&item=4535846650&rd=1
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  5. Mike Butt

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    Sweet :thumb I've got to get my nerve up to restore an '77 R100S sitting in my garage, rotting. :cry
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  6. lkchris

    lkchris Albuquerque

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    If you feel this bike was originally produced for the European market (except UK), then there would be a kilometer speedometer.

    I think, but am less certain, the taillight lens should have a big round reflector in the center. Even for /6 and /5 this was usually replaced in USA market with lens without reflector and use of separately mounted red reflector.

    Of course up to about 1983, Airheads had matching frame and engine serial numbers, and these can be checked here:
    http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi

    After that, it's just the frame number, and determining whether the engine is "original" becomes more difficult.

    Market for which bike was produced is indicated by this tool.
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  7. lkchris

    lkchris Albuquerque

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    A fun excercise.

    I see

    1. Later style handgrips.

    2. Rear-exit petcocks

    3. Non-original hose clamps on carb tubes

    Other things not so visible but authentic '77 would include

    1. First-style headlight light tube mounting system using thumbscrews

    2. Non-split fairing side lowers.

    More?
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  8. Flash

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    Just for grins, I put both 6080002 (Euro) and 6180002 (USA) in the VIN decoder, and both came up valid. The 608 was built in 03/76 and the 618 in 05/76.

    The bike was on a 3 foot tall display box. I couldn;t get to the right side of the bike to see the VIN on either the steering head gusset or on the sticker below the brake pedal. I couldn't see anything on the engine behind the dipstick, but I was reluctant to ask for a flashlight and then stuff my head in there. A VIN would certainly help a great deal here.
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  9. Flash

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    :thumb :bow

    1. Wasn't the /7 the first appearance of the tapered, lengthwise rib style grip? I thought the Magura "knurled" grip ended with the /6. The footpegs are right for the grips. Of course, if the grips are wrong, then the bike should have the round cross section pegs.

    2. :nod Petcocks should be 180 degree, not 90

    3. :thumb Geez, good one.

    4. THe mirrors are the later style "Bubble back" as opposed to the slightly smaller version with the flat backs with more angular creases.

    5: Not visible, but the 3/4 seat does not have the 1st aid tunnel or owners manual box. It also has the flat steel hinges that are riveted on.
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  10. lkchris

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    No, my '78 R100S bought new had the non-ribbed Magura grips.

    I do see them on the '79s here
    http://www.omnilex.com/public/bmw78/

    From the other thread:
    I don't recall "sticker below brake pedal" in '78, either.
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  11. Flash

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    Sure enough, in checking the 78 sales literaure I've got, all the bikes have the Magura grips. Looking at the parts 'fiche. most /7's changed to the later grips in 79. AAAARRRGGGH! My grips are incorrect. Another project at hand. :rofl


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    VIN sticker on right lower frame loop. Shown is a 78 R100RS. My 78 S has it as well, I don;t know if 77's had the sticker or not.
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  12. The Saint

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    So, this looks exactly like the BMW R100RS that Ian Ogilvy rode on the TV show, The Return of The Saint. I am workin on a page all about the Saint's BMW motorcycle, and would love your help and other thougths about any corrections or additions that need to be made to my page! Many thanks! http://www.saint.org/bmw-r100rs-st2-motorcycle.htm
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  13. Solo Lobo

    Solo Lobo airhead or nothing

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    Or, sell it to me to restore!

    On a related note, US #3 (or 4) was for sale on cycletrader a few years ago and took forever to sell... for $3,500 if I remember correctly (it was missing the fairing).
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  14. CraigC

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    The bike sold on eBay in 2003. If I remember correctly, it was in California and went for ~$1850. Below are some pics I saved from the add, which explain all the 'incorrect' parts on it currently. It showed up on the IBMWR marketplace sometime after that. I can't remember the details of the IBMWR add.
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  15. Wirespokes

    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    Besides missing the fairing, front fender on backwards and after-market mufflers, it doesn't look too bad really. I can see why you saved the pictures.
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  16. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    I live in L.A. Kentucky [Lexington Area]and begining in 1974 a group of bikes has ridden to the river on Thursday evening. One time to shake things up I had a bon fire -hog dog roast on a Thursday. A stranger was welcomed in on a new R100RS.Beautiful bike and more expensive than anything else there.
    The rider , I don't remember his name ,was a New Yorker the bike was fresh as was the cow plop on the road and the water in the creek we had to ride through.
    I remember him whineing about the plop and the creek and when the night was over and we left he dropped his bike in the feild and cracked some plastic. I never saw him again.
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  17. charliemik

    charliemik Been here awhile

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    Man, some of you guys really know your $h!t about the details from model year to model year. Anyway, that is one beautiful bike. IMHO the R100RS is the most beautiful bike BMW ever built. I always wanted one and then about 2 years ago the right one dropped into my lap.:clap
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  18. kixtand

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    I'm in the L.A. [KY] area myself. What are you riding currently, and do you know about the /5 rally coming up?

    kix
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  19. rev_eddie

    rev_eddie bike junkie.....

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    The #002 bike was up on ebay years ago as a previous poster noted.
    My understanding is that it then went to an east coast
    collector who then sold it to Orlando BMW.
    Orlando BMW then did their claimed "restoration".

    The Orlando BMW sales guy told us the $25K price tag at Daytona Bike Week a couple years ago, touting the "full restoration".

    After awhile, we got tired of counting all of the things wrong with the bike.
    It may look shiny and all, but it's so far away from being "restored" that it's laughable.
    If it were my shop I would be embarassed to have my name on a "restoration" like that.

    In addition to some of the other things pointed out:

    The bike has an '81-> later subframe and resultant mounting and wire harness concerns.

    Early 77's had the solo seat and no passenger footpegs.
    (Passenger pegs came with the dual seat)

    Decals were included with the bike, but were not put on the sidecovers.

    Incorrect brake discs.

    etc., etc., etc.



    Eddie
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  20. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Kix, I ride a 92 KLR,a 82 920 RH Yamaha, a 79 SR 500 Yamaha,a 96 Ducati M-900 and a 96 ATK 605 but not all at once.
    I read a little about the meet but I'm no beemer guy and am buried in farm work now anyways. The 900 mile round[and around] trip to the Eastern Roundavue will have to do it for a while.
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