Bought a bike from an inmate, three days in got rear-ended

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by urbanamish, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. abhibeckert

    abhibeckert Long timer

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    It’ll help but don’t rely on modulating lights. Even police cars with flashing lights aren’t safe from being cleaned up.

    Any time you’re stopped or slow you want to be looking at the mirrors and ready to accelerate, either into the ditch or if that’s not safe then there’s usually room in the middle of the road between your lane and the oncoming lane - a very uncomfortable place to park a bike but safer than behind a stationary car.

    I’ve been hit from behind once in a car about 20 seconds after I stopped with no crest or anything they just weren’t watching and hit hard enough to nearly write off my car. I’ve lost count of the number of near misses on a bike (where I was able to move out of the way).
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  2. 69DirtBiker

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    I worked as an insurance adjuster briefly in the 90s, but long enough to know rear end collisions are the most common accident by a long shot.

    This is why I believe bikes should be allowed to filter. It is not allowed here, so I pull up on the centreline and watch the first car pull up to a stop behind me for sure, usually 2...or I just filter.

    Now with distracted driving, I rarely commute to work.
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  3. Motorius

    Motorius Road trippin'

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    A good stopping routine is to always set yourself at the edge of your lane if possible. Less chance of getting hit, more room to move if hit, or even better, never take those eyes off the rear view mirror or the bike out of gear until you know traffic has definitely stopped behind you.
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  4. griz2

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    I'm newly back on 2 wheels also , in my case after 30 odd years ( Apart from scooters on tropical holidays of course !! ) .
    Not long before last Xmas I took the plunge and bought myself a 2007 Gs650f as a way to rekindle a very long lost youth and thought to take an overnight trip up to our bach ( For any non kiwi readers , cabin / basic holiday home ) and back before taking an ACC ( Accident Compensation Corporation , a NZ solution to rapacious lawyers . Basically it's a no fault insurance scheme that covers you for everything from impact to going back to full time employment . It has it failings but it's better than anything else I've seen around the world ! ) sponsored refresher course . Long story short , on the way home next day on the goat track that passes as State Highway 1 in Northland , I was 3 or 4 klicks south of Kaiwaka when I came over a slight rise to find the traffic in front stationary , unfortunately the vehicle directly ahead was a flat deck semi !
    Now I have been under a flat deck before , back in the day on my old 750/4 , not a happy experience ! Then I found out why BMW had kindly installed ABS , and very well it worked too ! It was at that moment , while I was sitting there congratulating myself on not still been riding one of those old shitters from the 70's in the sure and certain knowledge that I would now be checking out the diff on the tractor unit if I had grabbed that much front brake on one of those , that I heard a very similar sound to that of our poster !

    Now whilst riding through the previously mentioned Kaiwaka I had enjoyed all the way through the 60km zone the very close attention of a following Holden Commodore this attraction continued when we got back into the 100km zone , in fact so attentive was it I was very much hoping that if was to get any closer to my bum that it had a very big tube of KY Jelly ! I'm sure it will come as no surprise that the penishead following 18'' behind was the source of the burning rubber but fortunately it was he that ended up in the ditch with his front wheels pointing in different directions ! I merely looked to my left , eyeballed him , gave him the soldiers farewell , pulled out and bimbled my way 2km up to the head of the line stopped at the roadworks and off !

    But in that millisecond between the relief of stopping in time and waiting for the impact from behind I'm thinking how am I going to explain this to MISSION CONTROL !! and I've got 7 weeks before I go back to work , I hope I'm healed by then !!

    Lessons relearned and good advice from the previous contributors , leave plenty of room and always look for the escape route !
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  5. Uke

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    This is my worst nightmare with the traffic in Houston, and exactly why I now wear a Helite Turtle vest (HiViz) instead of the Leatt Neck Brace I had been wearing. I've been rear ended three times in a cage, (twice in an Explorer and last June 23 my PreRunner was totaled when I was rear ended and driven into the Mustang in front of me which was driven into the truck in front of it.)

    Seriously, give the air vests a good look, while I have and recommend the Helite vests, there are others from which to choose. If not a vest then a neck brace like the Leatt.

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  6. Uke

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    This and even though it's hell on the clutch, I never stop in neutral, I'm always in 1st with two on the clutch lever and my eyes going back and forth from my mirrors to the cars in front of me. I, too, stop for red lights lined-up to launch from behind the car ahead of me either to the right of left depending on which side suggests the better escape.
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  7. falcn

    falcn Squidless Soul

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    It's not bad on your clutch if it is properly adjusted.
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  8. BillsburgGS

    BillsburgGS Been here awhile

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    I am sad to say that I sold my bike yesterday for that very reason, after about 18 months of self-debating. When I bought my first bike 12 years ago I assumed that I was eliminating 90% of injury risk by having a no alcohol rule for myself on the bike, no night riding or rain if I could avoid, wore hi-viz, had outgrown my younger male bravado impulses, etc. and said there’s still that 5-10% chance that someone else hits me, but the overwhelming majority of risk is in my own hands.

    Then I started noticing a big change about 2 years ago. Before then, maybe 3-4 times a year I’d see an oncoming car cross the middle line before correcting. Last spring I noticed that it was happening to me at least once on almost ride. On my commute (car) to work a few times I would count the number of people looking at their phones who I passed or passed me, the results were a pretty consistent 20-25%. So, I concluded maybe I should quit while I am ahead and can find something else that restores more control over my fate to me. Bought an Emountain bike which is sort of like my F800GS...yeah, that I know that’s a stretch.

    Not saying I am done for good with motorcycles, maybe laws will be passed that are harsh on distracted driving, or I will move someplace with far fewer cars, but for now, the 20 year olds staring at their phones are an obstacle that I have decided is beyond my ability to be overcome and I enjoy too many other outdoor activities to risk permanent injury in my 50s.
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  9. Bar None

    Bar None Old School Dude

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    Unfortunately when I move too far to the right of my lane often a car will pull up right next to me. I think it is better to just be a little to the right of the center line and back far enough from the car in front so I can take an escape route to the right of the car in front of me.
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  10. CharlestonADV

    CharlestonADV I do my own stunts!

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    Sounds like you've given your decision thorough examination. Like you, I'm becoming increasingly concerned about distracted drivers. As a retiree, I'm able to avoid riding during the morning and afternoon heavy traffic flow. And, I made it a practice quite some time ago to avoid riding at night. While riding a motorcycle is certainly a risky behavior...I feel safer than the people I see riding mopeds and bicycles on the street.
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