Check your wheels 2018 GSA

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by hart, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. hart

    hart Been here awhile

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    Picked up a 2018 GSA July 13 at South Sound BMW after getting the news that my 2012 GSA was a total loss due to an insane series of events on August 11th... Anyhow I was thinking I should test drive the actual bike I was getting, but my traveling buddy and the folks at BMW were like "no need they are all the same from the factory"... Ok cool, so spend the day getting farkles, and doing paperwork and finally drove out of there at around 4pm. Get on the "5" southbound with my buddy on his new GSA. (part of the insanity) Lots of traffic so a slow go, I'm noticing that I cant really keep the bike tracking straight at low speed, I'm chatting with my friend on the intercom asking him if he is experiencing the same issue.."nope" maybe its the grooves in the highway, or the Anakee 3 tires. Symptom goes away at speed, so I just carry on load up my bike two days later (dealer is closed on Monday) and I'm on my way thru the all the back roads and thru LOLO pass to Missoula Montana . Got my 700 miles on in time to stop at Big Sky Motosports (great place) for my initial service. I mentioned to the service manager that I noticed this effect, and he said he would check it out. I managed to catch the eye of the tech working on my bike and reminded him to check it. Three hours later they call me and tell me that 18 spokes in my rear wheel are loose, and per BMW instructions they have to replace my wheel. Turns out a service bulletin had been issued the day I picked up the bike warning of a batch of bad wheels/spokes. It kinda freaked me out that I was riding this fully loaded bike with a wheel that could have collapsed at any time.. Have not seen anything mentioned about this issue so wanted to get it out there for any new owners... Have BMW check those wheels.
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  2. OldMichael

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    Glad you "spoke" up.
    Picking mine up next week. Will certainly have it checked.
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    I would never buy any bike without first taking the bike I'm buying out for a test ride.
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  4. hart

    hart Been here awhile

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    That is usually my position also.... i dont think things were working that well in my head after the accident... not because of a hit more like PTSD.
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    glen gs Been here awhile

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    Apparently there’s been a number of 17/18 bikes found with loose spokes.
    Check your spokes and make sure all the holding screws are in place.

    Any more than 4/5 loose spokes on one wheel then the wheel should be replaced, this is what I’ve been told by my dealer.
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    According to Big Sky the alert said any more than 7 spokes loose they need to replace the wheel
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    There was a thread somewhere that was started maybe a month or so ago that talked about a "flat tire" kind of shimmy being felt on the newer bikes. Some described it as riding on black ice, but usually only at specified speeds. Lots of talk about a too tight steering head bearing at first, but one of the last comments, IIRC, described the dealer finding loose spokes on both the front and rear tires. All the bikes were newer models, like yours.

    I think at one point JVB mentioned the possibility of loose spokes on the final drive hub potentially causing that kind of shimmy, but if I were still experiencing that problem, I'd most assuredly go back and check the spokes now.

    You never know, Hart, you may have just helped a whole bunch of people!

    And not to hijack the thread, but were you riding Hwy 12 through the Clearwater River Gorge into Lolo? I took that route in July of last year and thought it was beautiful. A friend who lives in Darby, MT called me a month later and told me the whole area was on fire and probably wouldn't stop until the first snows fell that winter. If that's the route you took, what's it look like this year?
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    It was fine when we went thru... but we did see live fires in southern oregon earlier in the trip. I think i still have a "shimmy" ( thats the perfect word for it) at higher speeds 30-50 when I'm off the throttle. Its less than it was. And i am super sensitive about it. But something is there..needs to go back to BMW for a check up.
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    Dumb question from someone who has never owned a motorcycle with spoked rims. Why does 4 or 5 loose spokes require the wheel to be replaced? Can't the spokes be tightened or do loose spokes allow the rim to get out of round? I'm glad I have cast rims so I don't have to worry about this issue.
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    Im guessing because the shops are not equipped to true the wheel if it’s out of whack due to a bunch of loose spokes.

    I’d much more worry about bending a cast wheel.
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  12. seasider

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    Front wheel on mine. Thread posted about 3 weeksago but new three rims later and im all set.
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    Happened to me last week. Got a new wheel (warranty) $2060 CAN :fpalm




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  14. wellcraft

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    I've been riding for almost 20 years and have never bent a cast rim. I don't do any off road riding and I'm extra cautious when I ride during pot hole season.
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  15. triman11427

    triman11427 Mud is my chrome

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    This has been an ongoing situation on my 17 GSA bought in February. I’m on my second rear wheel and it too had loose spokes. Both rears had gone out of true and led to a significant “rumble” at highway speeds. This is much too common, from what I’ve been reading here on the forum. The dealer is making it right and is working with me to make sure I’m safe and the situation is corrected. However this has been ongoing since April. Many times it’s not noticeable immediately and without any off road riding or hitting a pothole the spokes will loosen and create some abnormal sensation while riding.
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    ugh...I'm wondering why this is so under reported and under commented on here in the US if its such a big deal in Germany. I hope I'm not in the beginning of one of those BMW issues where you take it to the dealer and they don't feel a thing wrong... I had this with the front brake shudder, that ended up with me fired as a customer from my local BMW dealer. The same place I had purchased three bikes. You know the end of that story...bmw finally recognized the problem and came up with a kit to retrofit to the rotor to create more space... thats after two rotor and caliper replacements with bmw and finally having Woodys solve the problem ( out of my pocket) . Hail Woodys great place and staff.
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  17. triman11427

    triman11427 Mud is my chrome

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    There have been other threads on this issue but I haven't seen any momentum with similar complaints concerning loose spokes or wheel out of true issues. Many times the dealer will respond that the wheel is "within specs" but in reality most dealerships don't have the proper equipment or trained staff to measure and true a BMW wheel. Most are told to just replace the wheel with another factory wheel. That would be fine however my new replacement also had loose spokes. There is a problem here that isn't being addressed.
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  18. MrVvrroomm

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    Isn't checking the spokes (ringing them) part of the pre-delivery inspection when new?
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    when they checked my wheels at the Missoula dealer they just ping the spokes and listen to the sound, thats how they determine if they are loose.
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    hart Been here awhile

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    not according to the dealer...that's not on their pre-check list.

    which seems weird but thats what South Sound said.. can anyone confirm that?
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