Dedicated phone or one to rule them all?

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Dedicated phone or one to rule them all?

  1. Dedicated phone

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  2. Just the one for everything

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  1. 919nick

    919nick Been here awhile

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    For those that use a smartphone for navigation, do you use a dedicated phone or is it the same one you use for everything else?
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  2. 9Realms

    9Realms Drawn in by the complex plot

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    I have a now "old" Samsung Galaxy Note3 that works well for Nav, communications and anything else I need it for. I have chums with newer models, and I confess they are so much different to use vs. mine that I will stick with my old Note 3 as it works well and I can't think of anything I want it to do that it is not already doing very, very well. Also, easy/cheap to carry a spare OEM battery if need-be.

    I use the Garmin for freeway/highway travel and typically take the phone off the bars unless I am seeking gravel road or rather "slow" targets or points of interest.
    I don't always care for the distraction of seeing a text or incoming call pop up.... not gonna answer it anyway, but I don't like my solitude interrupted unless I am supposed to meet another rider someplace.

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  3. Menhir

    Menhir Adventurer

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    I use the same phone I use for everything else...when I use the phone as a GPS.

    Most of the time I use my Garmin Zumo because I still prefer a dedicated waterproof GPS. Still, I find my phone has much faster and far more comprehensive search capabilities than the Garmin so it's getting some decent play time.

    It's nice have the phone as a backup, too.
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  4. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    phone is in my pocket, so it does smartphone stuff
    same phone goes on the bars to do GPS stuff

    if it ever breaks im out $50, and I'll update to the xd Duraforce
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  5. ThomasD

    ThomasD Adventurer

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    I like to have a dedicated GPS phone beside my "normal" smartphone. Android configuration is too different according to my needs. The GPS device has display always on, no lockscreen, no security enabled like fingerprint. GPS logger as autostart. And I donĀ“t need mobile data as I use offline maps and ride mostly planned tracks / routes.
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  6. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Dedicated phone. I prefer an iPhone for everything BUT navigation. So I use an Android phone for navigation.
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  7. scootertrog

    scootertrog Been here awhile

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    iPhone5s for everything, that was the whole point of getting the smartphone to begin with - to carry as little as possible.
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  8. chrisjk

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    I have always had Apple devices until I became a phone navigation convert and then discovered the best apps were for Android. Since then, I have dedicated Android devices for navigation and carry the iphone in my pocket with all the everyday apps I use (banks, mail etc) and when riding, the best live tracking app I have found (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/raah-tracker/id525298475?mt=8 - atypically, only available for IOS) as letting my wife see where I am is pretty much the entry fee for my motorcycling these days - too many accidents in the past!
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  9. dhally

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    I wanted to have one device, but I think the vibration sorta killed my LG G3. Now I'm trying the new LG X Venture which is supposedly waterproof and shock resistant. It has a 4000 mAH battery aand so far the battery life is WAY better than the G3. Haven't tested the screen in sunlight but it's rated as bright as the G3 although lower res.
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  10. Vtrrookie

    Vtrrookie Look it's that orange Guy!!

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    One device: a Chinese rugged phone running on Android for everything. I use it for tracking, Sat Nav, internet, music and phone. I use the TomTom app, Osmand + for offroad riding, hiking and cycling and an expertimental app, called MyRoute App navigation. An Android phone is a jack of all trades which suits me well. :-)
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  11. kwthom

    kwthom Retiree apprentice - willing to learn

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    Android has a similar function - works in conjunction with Spotwalla:

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblergps.bubbler.pro

    https://spotwalla.com/


    The iOS equivalent for the phone is called SWConnect
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  12. chrisjk

    chrisjk Been here awhile

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  13. PineLaneRider

    PineLaneRider Been here awhile

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    My DuraForce Pro seems to do everything I need. The only issue I have is cold weather riding. The Lithium Ion battery gets too cold when riding below 20F and the phone will shut off. I may try to tuck it in behind the windscreen better...or not...
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  14. PackinDirt

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    There's a huge forum discussion somewhere else about using Kyocera phones as GPS (over 50 pages and counting). Lots of good information about usage and apps. Made me a convert. I have a Duraforce Pro on it's way.

    Off-road, I use a Garmin 78sc and on-road a TomTom Rider 400. I also carry a Garmin InReach SE (yeah, that's the wife's one demand when I go riding in the woods). My hope is that the Kyocera phone will take over some, if not all, of these tasks thus decreasing the number of devices I carry.

    Indeed, one device to rule them all! But I may still carry something as a backup...
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  15. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    hmm, that's interesting. i've left mine on the bike outside overnight and it dipped into 14F along with some wind. the next morning it was fine at around 22F or so. the 810g certification means it should be fine to -20F. i haven't found a reference to whether that means it's powered on or not yet.
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  16. PineLaneRider

    PineLaneRider Been here awhile

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    Riding in 12-19F it shows low battery and shuts off in about 30 min. Warm it up, turn it on and battery shows correct (charged) percentage. This is just running on battery. Will likely be ok if plugged into the charger. Haven't tried that yet. I guess at 12F riding at 50-60mph it could be below -20F?
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  17. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    that's cold man, cold !

    are you riding on or off road at those temps ? yep, running a charger and full screen brightness might help keep it warmer. or maybe a cpu intensive task in the background. never though there would be a GOOD reason to warm the battery ;-) until now
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  18. PineLaneRider

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    I have a 45 min commute that I ride almost every work day. I also ride on fire roads when I have the chance. This pic is from a New Year's Day ride. Don't remember the temp for sure but the phone shut off. I wanted a pic so I plugged it in, started it up and as soon as I unplugged it, it shut off. So I grabbed my jump pack/charger and kept it plugged in while I took the pic. You can see the cord. That's a gravel road, btw. I just love to ride...:D
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  19. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    hmm, normally gps isn't that big of a battery/cpu load. now, some of the applications are super heavy on resources, like sygic and waze, but the gps stuff.... oh nevermind, i read your post again and understood what you're saying about apps now. yep, makes sense. i would expect undervolting to make problems though, instead of solving them. shows how much I know ! :-)
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  20. 71tr

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    How about two identical smartphones dedicated solely to navigation. Two somewhat dated Kyocera Torque phones running Osmand+ and the Big Buttons app for a better interface. These phones have only a single gig of internal storage but you can expand with a removable SD card. Case is ruggedized and waterproof and phones have external mechanical type buttons to control basic items which I find easier to use with a gloved hand than screen based digital buttons. No cell plan on either phone. I've used this setup to cross Mongolia, Australia and Patagonia. One phone pulls duty on the bars during the day while the twin is being recharged in the tank bag. Identical apps, interface, maps, tracks etc.. on each phone so if one is lost or stolen I have a backup.

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