Did a European spec 1980 R100RS meet US emissions standards?

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  1. Big Bamboo

    Big Bamboo Aircooled & Sunbaked

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    A friend here on the island is trying to register a 1980 R100RS that was originally a European delivery. The DMV wants documentation that it met the US emissions standards of that year, before he can register it. Any ideas?
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  2. CafeDude

    CafeDude Ride to eat.....

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    Wow that's crazy that they'd ask for that for a 37 year old bike. I don't know the answer, but maybe BMW NA can provide some form of documentation?
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    I'd be very surprised if you could get any supporting documentation for this. If it's a non-certified vehicle; I don't think anyone is going to retroactively certify it. I suspect your solution will lie elsewhere, like getting them to just not worry about it somehow or convincing them that the emissions-related components are the same as the US models had. I don't see how they would accept formal certification from anyone but BMW, and I'm pretty sure BMW would be 100% uninterested in getting involved.
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  4. bmwrench

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    I think the only possible difference would be in whether the Euro bike has SAS, and the same jetting as a US bike.
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  5. airhead78

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    Aren't vehicles older than 25 years exempt from all that?
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  6. Big Bamboo

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    It has none of the SAS plumbing. Not even any holes in the heads to mount it. Was that on the 1980 USA models already, or did it come later? Regarding the exemption, I would think that too, but the Hawaii DMV is run by idiots. The first time I tried to transfer a title to my name, they said, "BMW doesn't make motorcycles" (even though I had a Hawaii title for one in my hand!!!)... I told them to Google it. They said, "We don't do that." I had to go home and bring back a manual to show them a picture! Then they took it in the back to make copies, "For our records". #facepalm
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  7. airheadPete

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    If they are THAT stupid, (LMAO here), I’d say it’s gonna be hopeless.

    Find a different office/clerk or have it registered in Honolulu? Where they’ve heard of things like the internet & indoor plumbing? :imaposer
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  8. airheadPete

    airheadPete Wherever they send me.

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    Sorry BB, that wasn’t very helpful. All that comes to mind is, are there any fender stickers saying the bike is emissions compliant on the US models? Or something similar, (a statement in an owner’s handbook)? Maybe that would convince them. I’m sure someone would be willing to trade a nice US rear fender with those decals for an exotic european fender. :D

    Can you call the Honolulu office on Oahu and see what they say? (I know, he’d have to travel to a different island, but maybe it’s less provincial there.)
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  9. Big Bamboo

    Big Bamboo Aircooled & Sunbaked

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    You have indoor plumbing?!?! LUXURY! :lol3
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  10. bmwrench

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    Yes. 1980 was the first year for SAS. I was amazed to see a Euro shop who offered to machine heads for the plumbing. I wonder if they had any takers. A brave man could probably drill and tap for the fittings without pulling the heads; I'd just register it elsewhere.
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  11. globalt38

    globalt38 "A Fist Full of Throttle"

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    someone else with a same year / model bike registered to provide them with precedence?

    Edit: Sorry - after posting realized that the issue is it's a Euro delivered bike - even less likely to find another like that on the island I'm guessing...
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  12. Wirespokes

    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    Is it still a euro title, or is it getting transferred from another US state?

    Find another clerk - search until you find the smart one. I've heard of word getting out -- Something like "XXXX at the Sherwood DMV can get it done for you. She's good!"

    Another approach is to search for the law transferring titles or importing a vehicle into Hawaii.
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  13. Big Bamboo

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    He bought it in England and had it shipped over. He's going to have to jump through some hoops, but visiting another DMV office is one of the options. I think he might have bypassed the usual vehicle shippers and brought it over in a container. Hawaii DMV law frowns on that... You can't even ship vehicles inter island, without it being in your name, insured etc. in an effort to stop the stolen vehicle traffic.
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    Wow. Even in California, they just look at the sticker on the rear fender. No worry if the sticker is from a bike of the same year
    , or if borrowed the fender from another bike for the check. Hint,hint
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    Source for those stickers? :ear
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    Thanks. I can't tell if these stickers mention anything about emissions compliance. Anyone know, or can confirm the info is on the stickers on their bike? [​IMG]
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    I've looked at buying a spare fender off Ebay... 45 bucks or so with matching year, ask the seller to take detailed photo. Swap it, get checked, swap it again and sell the fender.
    Might go with a friendly DMV official first. Look for a moto parked in the staff parking, then just directly ask what they need for getting it registered.
    Bureaucrats are just looking for an "official" check sometimes. Give them it and they're happy.
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  19. Big Bamboo

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    Yep, just looked on Ebay. There are a few fenders available with the sticker required, but none specific to the 1980 model year. Still looking...
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  20. bmwrench

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    Ride it to Vermont. There's a bridge now isn't there? I've registered some interesting bikes here, including a grey-market Honda Boy Racer. The clerk looked me over and said, "You're going to ride a 50cc motorcycle?", then handed me a plate.
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