Do Spot and Garmin Inreach devices make GPX files?

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  1. fhammond

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    Hi all,

    I'm thinking about getting a tracking/SOS device. I've already got a small PLB but I'd like to add a device that I can more easily carry in my jacket.

    I know how the devices work in terms of uploading data via satellite. However, I'm also interested in getting a GPX-type track file off the device after the ride is done. I'd be using this for adding GPS data to photos I've taken on a trip. I've got a small Sony camera but it doesn't have a GPS in it. When I'm done with a trip, I like to get GPS data into my photos. I've got an app that'll do this - "GPX Photo Tagger" - and it uses a GPX file.

    Do the Spot or Inreach devices create GPX files (I'm particularly interested in whether the Spot Gen3 will do this, as that's what I'm leaning towards right now) or can you just get the data from Spot and Garmin's Web site? Also, the Spot’s fastest update interval is 2.5 minutes; does it do more frequent updates to internal storage?

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  3. khpossum

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    Spot + spotwalla and you can get gpx files. Spotwalla is much better then the spot page anyway.
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    Thanks. I’ll have to check out this “Google” thing you mention. I was hoping that since this is a navigation forum on a motorcycle web site that someone might have first hand expience but I’m sure Google will be much better than that.
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    lets hope that one of said gurus will be along in just a moment sir
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    yes, they will. are you going to drop a waypoint and description of each photo location? for five or ten photos that's doable.... but for 100? the whole point of geotagged photos is so you don't have to slog through plugging in the GPS, downloading the track, remembering each location, compare notes, manually for each photo...

    grab an old smartphone and start shooting picturespwith geotagging turned on! it's so much easier now. :-)

    Screenshot_2018-06-04-08-56-10.png

    then you can see where you shot the pictures, your current recording track, your planned route, the waypoints you want to get to, easily all in one place.
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    Oh, hell no! The application I mentioned in my post - GPX Photo Tagger - will take a bunch of photos, a GPX file and automatically geo tag all the photos. The only thing that's need is an accurate GPX file and ensuring that your camera's data and time match the GPS time.
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    btdt- but the camera need a battery change, add I neglected to see the "set date"menu popup. 245 pictures later.... yuck
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    Whoops. You can edit the EXIF data in photos to match a different time. It is a hassle though.
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    Many of the programs that automatically geo-tag photos using the date/time stamp allow you to enter a time offset. When I have run into this I find a photo that I know exactly where it was taken and adjust the time offset until it is tagged in the correct location


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    Instead of using a spot with a large spacing between locations you may be better of using your phone and osmplus for your photo locations. You will get much better gpx track resolution and therefore more precise locations of your pictures. (No cell phone reception required).
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    I might try that, especially as my new bike has a waterproof case with USB for a phone.

    Despite searching the web, I don’t have an answer to whether the Spot logs track points more frequently than it uploads. I’d buy one and try it myself but Spot doesn’t make it easy to cancel subscriptions.
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    Thanks for the definitive answer! That's very useful. Now I have to find out if the Spot X (which I just got) or one of the Inreach products records GPX format onboard. Thanks for the offer of the GPS logger; I think I'll pass for now. How to you like the 276CX? I have a Navigator V, which I like, but it's fun to check out other gadgets.
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    The 276cx is a great GPS with a few annoying software issues. All in all I think it is the best mc GPS to be had for how I use it, but I'll be the first to admit it is not for everybody.

    Don't forget my earlier post about using spotwalla to get a gpx file. It is easy and spotwalla is great for checking progress.
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    Yes, will do! Sadly, the 10 minute update interval of the Spot isn't good enough for the GPX sync with photos (I really like having the photo GPS info exactly match the location I took the picture), so I might just rely on the GPS on the bike...or figure out if the Inreach devices store GPX data.
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    normally I use 15 meter AND 5 seconds as the track recording frequency, but that frequency can be set to whatever is desired.... here's the quick n easy



    before leaving home/camp, press record button on widget...
    (track is recording)
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    stop for photo and press "add waypoint to track" button on widget
    (add name or accept default)
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    you can even attach photos/videos/audio recordings/etc to the waypoint as desired,
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    back at home the track and waypoints show on the map
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    it takes about ten seconds to retrieve a non-rugged phone from a pack and place a waypoint... or about two seconds if it's rugged and already riding on the handlebars.

    I'll record audio waypoints at some stops to catch the funny stuff people say... ;-)
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    What app are you using for doing the track recording on your android phone?
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    I called Spot and Garmin and got an answer to my question.

    The Inreach Mini will record a track file locally. It is separate from the track information that is uploaded via satellite and it is updated much more regularly. It's not a regular GPX file but when you sync the Inreach to your computer via USB, the data will get transferred then uploaded to Garmin's Web site. From the Web site, it can be downloaded as a GPX file.

    The Spot products cannot do this. The only tracking data stored is what is uploaded via satellite. To get something more frequent than 10 minute intervals (which isn't good enough for my purpose), you have to pay for a more expensive plan.

    I purchased a Spot X but I'll probably return it and get an Inreach Mini instead. Mostly because of this GPX-type capability of the Inreach but also because I prefer the Iridium network and I like the fact that the Inreach Mini will fit in the phone case that's built-in to my KTM 1290; small thing but handy. The Spot X does seem good 'though: it's got a real keyboard and it has a regular phone number, so it's easy for someone to just send you a text message, as if it's any other phone. Personally, I don't really want people to be sending me text messages but I can see why the feature might be useful.
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