Dunlop Elite 4 Tires; a dark-side solution?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Snowbird, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. Snowbird

    Snowbird Cereal Killer

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    I read a review of the newly released Dunlop Elite 4 tires (Rider, August 2018) and they are supposedly good for 15,000 to 18,000 miles with few or no compromises to handling or wet or dry grip. The tires come in 15 to 21 inch sizes and in bias and radial designs, meaning they'll fit just about anything.

    Anyone have an actual-use ride review for these tires? I'd like to consider putting them on my FJR and riding coast to coast if I can fit that into my busy retirement schedule.

    If the tires really will last 15,000 to 18,000 miles, they might be the answer to the question why tire manufacturers don't come up with a long-lasting alternative to running car tires on motorcycles.
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    350Rizzer Been here awhile

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    sloryder Been here awhile

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    Snowbird, I can't speak for the Dunlops lasting 15,000 - 18,000 miles, but my rear Michelin Commander lasted for a bit over 23,000 miles on my V-Star 950 and the front has over 23,000 and I would estimate it will last another 3 - 4000 miles. My last Sportster had OEM Dunlops front and rear and it gave me over 14,000 miles on the rear. I have read of other Sportster owners complain of only getting 8,000 miles out of the same tire. I suppose it is a matter of how you ride and where you ride, as some roads are much harder on tires than others.
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  4. Snowbird

    Snowbird Cereal Killer

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    Thanks for the reply. My 1996 Sportster was like all my motorcycles; I was lucky to get 3000 miles out of any tire. Must be me.
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  5. VX Rider

    VX Rider Long timer

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    I'm about to toss a rear Avon Road Rider at close to 5500. Way better than what I was getting on the BT45''s by nearly double.

    But a mitigating factor.....I moved out of the Texas panhandle.....
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  6. massiveuniball

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    I run Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart 3. I have ~13000km on them (Yamaha FJ 09). Important to note that I'm a medium aggressive rider. Probably 50% of the time i push hard. Front is still "brand new", rear probably has about 75% left. Amazing wet weather handling. If the Elite 4 is a step up I'd almost say you can't go wrong.
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  7. Snowbird

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    Crap, you are right. I looked this morning and I don't find them either. FJR takes a normal size used on a wide range of motorcycles. You would think Rider might have mentioned that; no wonder this is the first copy of rider in my hands for about two years.

    That's what I'm currently running, and I can't look right now, but I'm sure I don't get anywhere near that mileage out of them. Later today, I'll edit in my mileage results. Thanks for your suggestion.

    EDIT: I now have 3k miles on the Roadsmart 3. Tread now measures 3/32", from the 9/32" when new. Not good.
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  8. CajunRider

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    I don't know about the E4, but the old E3 was SCARY on wet roads. I had one on my Goldwing. Absolutely no grip in the wet.

    Wet road, 45 mph, top gear, 1/4 throttle... spinning like mad. It was removed after 4000 miles and several similar experiences.

    It did have PLENTY of tread left, so I don't doubt 15k+ miles if you take it easy on them. If they fixed the wet road grip issue, the E4 might be a nice tire for heavy machines.
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  9. kwthom

    kwthom Retiree apprentice - willing to learn

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    Emphatically agree!

    So, we know that lowest cost is going to be the OEM tire upon delivery, but really? I have no idea what Honda was thinking back then ('06 for me...) when these were spec'd out.

    That's a bad tire, the Metzler I tried on the rear was worse; delaminated.

    I'd only be marginally interested in how the front of an E4 wears on a 'Wing. For 100,000+ miles, it's been the G709 on my bike that seems to be the best of all worlds.
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  10. Photosmart

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    I've never had these issues with an E-3. I ride in rain from time to time and have never had this issue. I ride an old Kawasaki Voyager so I don't have the power a Goldwing does. Of course, I don't need all the power a Voyager has in the rain.....

    I have heard Michelins are good too, but I've never had any reason to dislike an E-3, front or rear.
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    Glad it worked well for you... that being the case, the E4 would probably work fine also.

    It can't just be the power... the Goldwing can't be all that different from the Voyager in the power department. I don't know the Voyager numbers, but the Wing is only about 110 HP. It's built more to be smooth than sporty. Maybe it has something to do with the rim or tire size??
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    My Goldwing 1500 had E3s on it when I got the bike. They were awful.
    They howled like crazy in the corners.
    I'm now running a car tire on the back and a Commander II on the front.
    They are quiet and the bike handles great.
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    I believe the Voyager is just shy of 100 hp. I am too lazy to do my own research, and both of the main Voyager forums push/ed the E-3 as the be all end all of tires so that is what I've always bought. I get around 15k for mileage out of the rear, a little better for the front. They do howl. A couple of the members there have tried the E-4 and give them high praise. I don't know why, but the Voyager requires bias tires.

    I would like to do the car tire for the rear, but it is apparently a bit of a trick to get the tire seated. So, I just continue to buy the motorcycle tire. My ox is being gored with all the Dunlop bashing. I've never noticed a lack of traction for what that is worth.
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  14. Snowbird

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    I've run Dunlops seemingly forever and am satisfied except for mileage. I see others claim high mileage out of other brands (and also with Dunlops) but I take those with a grain of salt as riders who never or almost never use the power the bike came with.
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