End of Parpaillon Tunnel in the French Southern Alps ???

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  1. Olirider

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    There is a new European safety regulation for road tunnels longer than 500 meters.
    Unfortunately, it seems that the Parpaillon tunnel is concerned by this new regulation.
    It means that to be kept open, safety works for a price of 1 million Euros should be done.

    There are 3 possibilities :
    • closing the tunnel
    • doing the safety works for 1 million Euros
    • closing the tunnel only for motorized vehicles and keep it open only for pedestrians and bicycles.
    The tunnel is under the responsibilities of 2 local communities, the département des Hautes Alpes and the municipality of la Condamine-Châtelard.
    Of course, the elected officials don't agree and are fighting : They want to keep the tunnel open because it brings money from tourism but nobody wants to pay...

    I don't know when the tunnel would be closed if the decision would be made.
    I will update this thread when I get more information.


    Local Press article (in French ) : https://www.dici.fr/actu/2018/07/23/tunnel-parpaillon-polemique-entre-elus-1160062
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  2. Its not Ginger!

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    So they are concerned about the tunnel collapsing on top of drivers, but it is fine for it to collapse on top of cyclist and pedestrians - excellent, the more of them we can kill off the less congested the nearby roads will be for us to play on.
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  3. glitch_oz

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    They'll find a way around it, it's France after all!
    Jausiers and Embrun both aren't really places tourists stay for any length of time anyway, a closure of the Parpaillon will keep chipping away at the local income-base.
    A closure would also kill much of the existing infrastructure along the D39, precious little that there is.

    But I can see m'cycles and maybe cars getting banned eventually for the sake of the "soft-tourist" Dollar, being cyclists and walkers etc.
    Thanks for the heads-up...and please update the thread, the Parpaillon is one of my favs for bypassing the uninspiring and touristy Col de Vars:beer
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    Joining the Grands Goulets (which was closed by the time I found out about it) and the old road from Montereale Valcellina to Barcis (which I drove/rode many times). Both of which were replaced with tunnels.

    I'm sure that there are MANY others - some of which are still accessible if you know where the original alignment was. SS51 between Longarone and Tai di Cadore is one. Fairly long stretches of road along the Piave are still accessible (bypassed by tunnels) as is a sharp climb up from Perarolo di Cadore (bypassed by a tunnel and a high bridge) - although the latter is officially restricted to residents. Luckily, I don't read Italian.

    Cough.
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  5. Olirider

    Olirider Been here awhile

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    If it is not their responsibility because it is legal, Yes !

    The problem, in my opinion, is to consider the tunnel as a "road tunnel".
    But it is a road tunnel because the trail is legally a D route : the D39T. But this is also the reason why it is still legal to ride or drive on this trail.
    Otherwise it would be forbidden to motorized vehicles as nearly all the many gravel roads in the area.

    I just found an online petition to keep the tunnel open. You can sign it here :
    https://www.mesopinions.com/petitio...rmeture-tunnel-parpaillon-aux-vehicules/39650
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    Fait aussi, Aussie.

    (couldn't resist)
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  8. Olirider

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    Whoa, an anglo-french pun ! :clap

    I guess they will be surprised to get signatures from US and Oz !
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    It hopefully might make 'em think twice!
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    I am starting to keep tabs on the different names appended to where I live - England. UK or GB. Grande Bretagne or in this case Royame Uni. OK.

    One US site I used to buy clothing from, now only lists British Isles rather than UK. It does list the Isle of Man and Ulster separately. But no longer ships to England, Scotland or Wales.
    Accepted the order then nothing, no email saying why or whatever.
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    I would guess that the majority of my compatriots equate GB, UK & England. Undoubtedly much to the annoyance of the Scots, Welsh & Irish.

    Odd about that site, though.
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  12. Olirider

    Olirider Been here awhile

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    Most French people speak about "les Anglais" when they actually mean "British people".
    My Welsh brother in law does not like it at all ! :D
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    Duluth Trading... (or not, in my case)
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    Yourbrother-in-law should correct them. They would in the same situation. They won't be offended.
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    Nor could they give a %^$# :lol3
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    We're not all Boris Johnsons.
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    Not my experience at all. If you can be bothered then they will too.
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