England To The Baltics, Through Scandinavia & Back

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  1. ilikadabika

    ilikadabika Adventurer

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    I'm planning a 20 1/2 day trip from England, going up through the Baltics and down the Nordic countries. I want to do the Chernobyl tour in the Ukraine. Other than that, I've only got a rough idea of how my trip will look. This is what I've come up with so far...

    Channel Tunnel train into France after work and get a few hundred Km on the first (half) day. 2 days blast to Warsaw, Poland. After that, the order is Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. Ferry to Helsinki in Finland, then a short blast and another ferry over to Stockholm. Lastly Oslo and Copenhagen, before heading back to the Channel Tunnel.

    I'm going solo, on an ST1300. Camping most nights, with perhaps 2-4 nights in cheap hotels. Budget is low to medium.

    I did a trip this year, making a clockwise loop through the Balkans and back in a fortnight. I mention this, so you can make a judgement on the pace of my trip

    Any and all comments welcome. Must see places, don't go there, routes, campsite/ hotel recommendations, etc. Anything else that pops into your head. Ask any questions you like- I'll be watching this thread.

    Thanks peeps, Nick
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  2. istadniy

    istadniy Ivan the Quite OK

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    Inmate @milkman67204 has ridden around Ukraine back, forth, sideways and every other way imaginable and has made an app for what's to see and where to go in Ukraine: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...out&hl=en&rdid=com.rothausen.ukraineinsideout

    Road quality (for the more frequently traveled roads) in Ukraine can be gauged from this site: http://uaroads.com/7/49.337118,31.055737 It is in Ukrainian, but self-explanatory - green is good road, red is where lots of participating drivers' smartphones were badly jarred, so likely potholes. Roads tend to be worst early spring, before winter damage repairs start.
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  3. milkman67204

    milkman67204 Been here awhile

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    If you want to download the app it is available in English, Ukrainian or Russian. You can select when you download.

    But ya there is GPS coordinates of cool places, pics of the places and a brief write up.

    If you like nature and abandoned places the choices in Ukraine are endless.

    You can find us on Facebook to at Ukraine Inside Out
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  4. ilikadabika

    ilikadabika Adventurer

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    Thanks lads. I downloaded it straight away. Should be a real help. I'm thinking the Ukraine will be one of the highlights of this tour.
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    milkman67204 Been here awhile

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    You can definitly see Ukraine and not spend much money :) I spent almost 6 months and driving over 20,000 km in Ukraine to gather info for that app. 60% of my money spent was on gasoline! It is around 1 USD per liter. The people are great and the food is amazing!
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    If the only part of Norway you are going to visit is the shit-hole Oslo, the only thing
    worth while seing there is the Viking-ship museum on the Bygdøy peninsula.
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    mapajo Been here awhile

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    Hey. I'm from Poland. I invite you to visit the south of Poland, including Krakow. I think it's better than Warsaw. I can show you beautiful places, for example: Beskid mountains, Krakow, places with delicious food and recommend some cheap hotels. Give a sign if you are interested.
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  8. ilikadabika

    ilikadabika Adventurer

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    Hi Mapajo, thanks for the offer. I spent some time in the south a couple of years ago. It's great- I especially loved Zakopane. We did the Auschwitz tour, etc.
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  9. Don T

    Don T Bike Addict

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    Nice trip you got planned.

    If you haven't visited Norway before you should prioritize it in your trip planning.
    Probably the most beautiful country in Europe and it offers great riding.

    I live south of Copenhagen on Zealand. You are welcome to take me up on my tent space offer.
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  10. ilikadabika

    ilikadabika Adventurer

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    Thanks Don. I appreciate the offer.
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  11. brian sherriff

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    Torun in Poland is a fab old city, largely untouched by the War. As said, Krakow is nice, but I prefer the former. Vilnius and Riga are both interesting capitals and worth visiting, the latter my favourite. Not so keen on Tallinn, but you will catch the ferry from there so worth a stop over. Helsinki has some interesting and strange architecture if you are into such, plus a lively culture. I agree that Norway will be the highlight, my favourite place was the Loftoten Islands, but way up north. In the south I missed Lysefjorden due to the ferries being fully booked - book well in advance. The road down to the fiord is amazing apparently (it looks so on a map). There is a camp site there. You can wild camp in Norway.
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  12. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

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    I'd skip South Finland, nothing so special here, that you won't get a taste of in Sweden.. take the direct ferry Tallinn > Stockholm, and then head west to the Norwegian fjords and coast. About Bergen or Stavanger is very nice (the entire coast is, but it's SLOW - and don't go too fast, radars & horrible fines!). Norway depends a lot on the weather, though, if you get lucky, it is like from a fairytale.
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