Fast, Sporty, Upright-ish 2nd Bike for $3500?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by matbaugh, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. matbaugh

    matbaugh Been here awhile

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    Hi folks,

    I currently own a Super Tenere and feel it is truly the do-it-all bike. After a Two Bros exhaust addition, and an ECU flash, it is not slow, it is comfortable, and with the suspension, I can motorcycle camp from one ocean to the other (as I did last July).
    I have slowly started to desire a bike that was more SPORTtouring, and was willing to give up the utility of the S10 to do so--I have it for sale in the Marketplace. However, I'm now beginning to wonder if it's such a good idea. If I trade it in, I'll lose my butt in equity, plus, it really will probably keep going, going, going. I have been looking hard at the Ninja 1000, or the GSX S1000F, or (though most likely out of my price range unless I sold my bike for close to $8500) a BMW XR1000, also the FJ-09/Tracer 900.
    Can anyone recommend an older bike that I could pick up for around $3500 that will offer me a more sporting experience, but not have me pretzeled physically on the bike? I'm in decent shape, with a strong core, but I am 39, 235 lbs, and 6'1", so I prefer a more upright seating position.

    FZ-1? FZ-6? Older Triumph Speed Triple?

    Wondering what you'd recommend for a bike in this price range that could offer more of a sporting experience.
    Thanks in advance.

    -M
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  2. dsilver1007

    dsilver1007 Long timer

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    Fz1 first gen. Motor is a gem, suspension is good stock but you could always contact dean on fz1 forum for a better shock, brakes are solid, and just a darn good motorcycle.

    My dad has a bandit 1250 that is nice and a torque monster but suspension and brakes are lacking.

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  3. Jetpilot5

    Jetpilot5 Been here awhile

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  4. bjorn240

    bjorn240 Good with a map!

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    2nd Gen FZ1 will do the trick too. It's slightly sportier than the 1st Gen, specifically slightly higher pegs, and the tank capacity is lower. That said, those compromises get you an aluminum frame, lighter weight, better handling. It's really best described as a very very comfy R1. And easy to get for $3500.

    I've also been looking at a Ninja 1000, but I can't justify changing bikes and spending $1500-2000 for a bike that I think will be very similar, so I'm sticking this the Fizzy One.

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  5. matbaugh

    matbaugh Been here awhile

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    That is one SHARP bike! What year? Also, looks like that is an aftermarket saddle--Sargent?
    What are the longest days you typically do?
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  6. bjorn240

    bjorn240 Good with a map!

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    Thanks!! It’s a 2006, which is the first year of the Gen II FZ1. The seats are Russell Day Long. I swap those on for long rides. For local rides I have a Dirt Road seat which is made by a guy on the FZ1OA forum.

    The longest ride I do frequently is Westchester, NY (home) to Hagerstown, MD (I have some staff there). That’s about 300 miles one way if I take the route over Michaux State Park (280 if you slab it). I usually my go up one day, stay over, and ride home the next day, but I have done it back and forth in one day a couple times - leaving at 5 am, working a full day, and coming home around 10 pm. If you do 560 miles in a day with a full workday in between you’re a bit stiff when getting off, but it’s doable. I’ve done lots of 400-600 mike days touring with more frequent stops and that is agreeable to me. I am 5’11”, 190.

    The FZ1 isn’t very sexy, but it’s an unbelievably good bike for $3500.
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  7. davidji

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    Most bang for your buck could be the 1st gen FZ1. You could buy a nice one and have a lot left over. You'll have to decide if it's sporty enough for you. Of the bikes on your list, it seems like it would be a good one for riding across the country.
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  8. curtis6870

    curtis6870 Long timer

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    My GSX650F is for sale. Its an outstanding motorcycle. $3400
    Full delkevic exhausts, rear rack, center stand, newish battery and good tires.
    11k miles. Pristine never downed.
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  9. CrazyBiker

    CrazyBiker Adventurer

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    I am selling my FZ1. S1000R is its replacement.
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  10. CrazyBiker

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    Way overpriced for old tech. You should not pay over 2500 for one
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  11. davidji

    davidji bike curious

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    What are you claiming the price is (to make it way overpriced)? Price varies by market of course, but when I sold mine a year ago I got asking price which was less than that number you listed. That same bike sold again (and very quickly) a year later for even less.

    Over priced for old tech? How about bargain priced for a powerful, fuel efficient, comfortable bike with a 250 mile fuel tank range.
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  12. Jim Moore

    Jim Moore Harsh and colorful

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    Is that the stock front end?
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  13. CrazyBiker

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    Most gen1 owners expect too high prices around 4-5k. You can get a 2014 gen2 for 5k easy
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  14. EastBoundAndDown

    EastBoundAndDown Ron - 300XC-W DR650 FZ1

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    3K is the average price for an 01-05 FZ1. Some knuckleheads want 3500 and some only ask 2500-2700.
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  15. alekkas

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    So a 919 is a sporty bike with decent ergos in your price range - 04 and up have some fork adjustment. Honda F4i is sportier but more committed ergos though better than modern sport bikes. Only the oldest z1000s (like 03 or 04) are in your price range. If wringing out a smaller motor is something you'd like, FI naked sv650s have the ergos. Enjoy the second bike!
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  16. matbaugh

    matbaugh Been here awhile

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    Alekkas,
    I hadn't heard about the F4i--I'll take a look. Thanks for the input!
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  17. bjorn240

    bjorn240 Good with a map!

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    Yes, that's the stock FZ1 front end. I have Traxxion AK20 cartridges in my fork, but it's the stock fork - 43mm Kayaba inverted with adjustable preload, compression (bump), and rebound.
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  18. awitowsk

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    I have owned 3 of the gen 1s over the past 15 years, kept going back to them after owning other bikes like a ZX12r and FJR inbetween. Have a 2005 FZ1 I should probably sell. Bought it 3 years ago with 5k and now have 55k on it. Never a lick of trouble in 50k, still runs and rides the same. Can hang with sport bikes and comfortable do 800 mile days. I mostly commute so picked up a nc700x. NC is not remotely as fast or comfortable and feels budget built, (wife nicknamed it the lawn tractor the way it rattles and putts along) but hard to beat the 70 mpg commuting. The FZ1 is old tech, but its always been the best bang for the buck IMO.
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  19. rd400racer

    rd400racer Long timer

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    Another vote for the FZ1 1st Gen. It can look like this...

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    Or pull this duty if you want...

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    Or go full on nut case...06 CBR600RR. It's only fun as long as the cops stay away. Truth is, the FZ1 is really more fun.

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  20. Modus

    Modus Been here awhile

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    Honda Blackbird. Maybe the most underrated bike ever. Silky smooth, stupid fast, reliable as an anvil and very comfortable with minor mods (seat, bar risers, peg lowering kit to suit). I did many long days on that bike and still regret selling it.
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