Fatal tire blowouts on Dunlop D402's

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  1. scapegoat

    scapegoat Pushin forward back

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    Heads up is you havent already read about this. Dunlop D402's made by Goodyear, never knew Goodyear made dunlop tires but that explains their lack of quality. Something like 30 tire failures, 5 deaths 22 injuries. NHTSA investigating and several lawsuits in place. Investigations reveal Goodyears lack of caring for its workers or customers put it in the top 5 US companies for death tolls says the article.
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  2. Omarius

    Omarius Long timer

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    Dunlops have always been garbage.
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  3. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

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    That's odd. I've put tens of thousands of miles on my bikes using Dunlops and have never had any issues with them.
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  4. C/1/509

    C/1/509 Why?

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    Tires are a pretty subjective topic, but garbage? Nope.
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  5. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Then I should be dead like 40 or 50 times by now ?
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    402 is the stock Harley tire. I've seen far too many Harley tires that are either overloaded, low pressure, or have huge dryrot cracks.

    I changed my brother-in-law's tires a couple years ago, he has a 2004 Sportster with 1500 miles on it. Tread was fine, sidewalls looked ready to pop. I have no doubt that in 10 years I'll take these off and they'll still have the tits on them.
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  7. Richarde1605

    Richarde1605 Been here awhile

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    Nothing is perfect, and any injury, or worse, fatality is terrible. But those look like a standard Harley tyre, if so there must have been millions made. Many factors influence 'accidents', it cannot always be something/someone elses fault. Sometimes we don't get all the facts, how old were the tyres, who fitted them, how many miles etc.
    Personally I have never had a problem with Dunlop tyres, but have used just about every brand at some stage, and I am still here...

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    Richarde1605 Been here awhile

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  9. dduelin

    dduelin Prone To Wander, Lord, I Feel It

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    Two co-workers have bragged to me about getting nearly 20,000 miles out of a set of genuwhine Harley tires, this on mid 2000s models. I imagine the tires are nearly 10 years old. I hope it doesn't happen but if something happens the US Rubber's Worker Union will get them in touch with the ambulance chasing lawyers behind this.
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    slipknot Long timer

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    A good investigator will start with this in mind. And the investigation will likely end there.
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  11. Richarde1605

    Richarde1605 Been here awhile

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    Kind of ironic name 'scapegoat', what brand of tyres have zero fatalities on them, and how much commission do you get to diss dunlop?

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  12. Richarde1605

    Richarde1605 Been here awhile

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    Back in the late 80's the k701f and k700 radials were the best tyre on my first 85 K100RS, for me. Ran some others as that was all they had in the shop. I think they still make them, just not in my size...

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  13. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Harley tires tend to get ignored for a few reasons. In one sweeping generalization:

    The bikes don't get ridden enough, so the tires age out before the tread is gone. Then people are riding on old tires that are cracking and rotting. Almost every HD I've seen in the flesh still has the original tires on it, usually the sidewalls have turned brown...

    The rear tires on many HDs, particularly on the bigger baggers and touring bikes are really hard to see, and don't get inspected enough.

    Lots of old guys don't check the air pressure. Like ever. Mostly because they physically can't get down there to do it anymore. They let the dealer pay attention to that stuff, but when riding 3000 miles a year, the bike sees the dealer once a year maybe.

    Lots of overloading happening.

    Cruiser tires are made to be very long wearing so, even new, the grip is not great.
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  14. Richarde1605

    Richarde1605 Been here awhile

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    I was leaning to neglect myself, but then lots of people burn through tyres and never suffer rot, ride on :-)

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  15. scapegoat

    scapegoat Pushin forward back

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    Gee, a simple name implies what? maybe I can change it for you to fuckdunlop guy or something, how'd that be for ya Ace? Gotta love dumbass like you. Somebody mentions a news story and the personal insults fly. Am I telling a story of how I crashed cause of junk tires? no. Just throwing out something I read for others. BTW,I get 0 from bashing Dunlop or Goodyear for that matter.From car tires to bikes tires their nothing more than mediocre overpriced rubber.
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  16. scapegoat

    scapegoat Pushin forward back

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    Your right, back in the 70ie and 80ies they were good tires, or the best tires. But like all things complacency and profits take precedence over quality.
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    Richarde1605 Been here awhile

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    My apologies, be cool ride safe :-)


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  18. TheProphet

    TheProphet Retired; Living the Dream

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    :confusedNo other brand or model # tires ever blow out, or have problems???

    Edit: If you "search" for Motorcycle Tire Recalls", there are numerous brands and types. Lot's of "ambulance Chaser" attorneys stirring up the pot to garner business as well.


    http://www.killinofirm.com/news/motorcycle-tires-recalled-for-defect-that-can-increase-risk-of-crashes


    https://www.consumeraffairs.com/tire-recalls


    http://www.floridatirelawyer.com/tire-manufacturer-responsibility/defective-tire-recalls/bridgestone-tire-recalls/

    Dunlop has their share of recalls, but apparently decided not to pursue one in this case (Thread topic).

    FWIW, I have a 2011 HD Road King, that does NOT call for D402's. It has Dunlop Elites. I'm on my second set for this bike, and they have performed flawlessly.

    That said, tire OWNERS can often cause failures, due to over/under inflation, overloading, running unbalanced, and so on.
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  19. sleazy rider

    sleazy rider Retired

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    It's Friday, it's Harley related. Can we get a merge with the Jo Momma Harley thread?
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  20. DFH

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    If you want people to take such a statement seriously then quote the source of the news story. That will let others judge its validity for themselves rather than have you telling people what to think. Thats a guaranteed way of getting peoples back up, as you have now seen from the comments above.


    Way to go credibility wise. So you don't like the OEM tyre that comes on the latest Hardly-Driveable LardArse Extra Sparkly Whores Handbag Special Edition. Fair enough, but to say by extension that the tyres being raced on the Moto2 bikes this weekend in Le Mans are "mediocre overpriced rubber" because they happen to be made by the same multinational company in a different factory, on a different continent, for a different purpose, is childish.
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