Fraser 125.

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  1. MATTY

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    In my phone trawling for rims /wheels forks. as mentioned in my other thread, i found a whole flock of TL125 bits they are up on the west coast of Scotland on a farm i bought my DRZ400 from.
    The TL stuff apparently is in a scrap leyland van and there is a Fraser 125 bike rough but complete with cam shaft damage top end partially stripped. but with a spare complete turning allegedly good HondaCB125 S engine.
    Its my mate FIL place he remembers the fraser running in the 1980s said he rode it and was nothing special compared to his then 70s TY175 .
    He is not interested in it one bit but i am tempted to get it with the bits and pieces of tl 125s which i am told fill that old van.
    A quick search threw up some info on trials central seems the 125s were about but not that popular, looks like they did a 305 version i am just guessing will be a different frame though.
    Reports look to back up my mate feelings about the fraser framed 125 he thought it was overrated .
    But i get more wheels than i could shake a stick at and a potential all new toy to take up even more of that spare time i simply dont have. LOL!
    Wadya Know about these Frasers good or bad, i am already hopelessly smitten and i have not even seen a picture of it yet.
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    A quick search found this image of an '85. I'm guessing yours won't look quite this good though.

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    And I'm thinking if MATTY doesn't jump on it.... :deal
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    You'll have a helluva time with your dually on those narrow Scot roads. :lol3
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    Have sprinter (well VW version) will travel eats those back roads.
    Kind of exited its another odd ball so should fit in great at our place.
    But on a more sobering note if it is as rough as my drz400 was and that was running, it will be rough.
    But faint heart never won fair whats her name and all that rhetoric.LOL!
    WE CAN REBUILD HER! Maybe! Probably! Perhaps?! Any way with that nice sparkley red one in the kindly posted up picture for inspiration how could it ever fail.
    Well i have to be positive RIGHT!? LOL LOL
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    Pics when you can, brother! :D
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    Pics i hope so but just hope i am not posting up a horror movie.
    Those shepherds are rough on motorcycles and ATVs.
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    I've saved worse. I'm sure you have also. :D
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    yes my DRZ:lol2400:lol3
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    This will have been a dog when they pres ganged it into use on the farm, they kill bikes i saw them on a DR200 a couple of years ago just ride up lay it down then back on it smoking like crazy from being laid down, Oil changes even checks will be when it rains Maybe no guarantees at all, my DRZ is a rough old thing smokes good think its valve guides but not sure.
    I know the SL st S road bike OHC 125 100s etc were cam into alloy head lands these lands suffered on neglected abused bikes, often can show scoring on such abused bikes.
    Head partialy removed as reported and yet has spare OHC 125 motor suggests to me the engine in the trials bike is in poor fettle.
    They will have been full of good intentions to swap engines but it clearly just never happened thrown in a Sherpa van and left for dead. Exactly whats there seems a bit vague TL stuff lots of it, and a couple of frames so i could just end up with a good haul perhaps sell off some stuff i just dont know yet.
    Going in open minded but the trouble is i have bought it already in my heart never a good attitude to enter the negotiating table with.
    And all this started looking for some used alloy rims.
    LOL!

    One things for sure i know it wont look anything like this one.
    Which seems a bit uncertain what it actually is.
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    Lots of talk here on them, Reditch based company aparently, looks like they made a good few options. the 305 looks interesting.
    http://www.bsaotter.com/frazer_hondas_a_forgotten_breed..html
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    I think heart over good sense is why we're trials riders to begin with. Otherwise why would we continue to beat our heads against rocks, both literally and figuratively?
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    I think the fraser or whatever it is in the pic in my post has an RTX front mudguard bracket.
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    I am eagerly awaiting pics. I'm dead serious, if you don't jump, I will.

    Now shipping from Scotland may be a bit of a pain, but... :eek7
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    ^^ See what I mean? :lol3
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    Now don't you start.... :bluduh

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    Its not crossing no Atlantic let me tell you LOL! it is coming home with its new owner Eventually And i will be only too proud to show it off in all its glory. Well ok i elaborated on the last part perhaps but if you got no guts . you got no glory. LOL!
    I wonder what it is going to look like. I dont mean Re condition thats sure to be ROUGH< but regards its style, they seem to vary such a lot. look at this one here.
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    Seems that tipping fellow and david fraser just put together anything they felt like , Being kits frame i guess its more down to what panelwork the builder wanted to use or fabricate same with the running gear they were based on. I bet many were made out of CB125s far more ubiquitous than TL125s in the uk.​
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    From what little I have found out, they were either kits or complete bikes. The TL125-based machines were enlarged to 185ccs, and were met with mixed reviews. The 305cc machines were more popular, even if they were a bit large.
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