Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. simon crewe

    simon crewe Adventurer

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    I dont know if this helps - I am in the UK and obviously use CN EU, if I use the address search the system asks for country etc. If I type in Great Britain it then offers town/city etc. If I type in England it then offers (post code) zip code weird eh!
    To say Garmin's search facility is flakey is an understatement on both the units & basecamp
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  2. Yinzer Moto

    Yinzer Moto aka: trailer Rails

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    I don’t input addresses on the Montana (or any Garmin product) because of those issues. Where I live, I could live in Pittsburgh or Penn Hills, or Verona. Depending on the mapping program. I search for the destination on my phone, then looking at that map, I drop a pin on the Montana in the same spot.
    In your case, it might have the name spelled with no space. It might require an é at the end.
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  3. marchyman

    marchyman DR and GS

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    :nod When I first got my Montana I had it set to avoid toll roads. I got some pretty strange routes until I realized that bridges that charge a toll are toll roads, too. :lol2 Hard to get around in the SF Bay Area in a reasonable amount of time without crossing a bridge.
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  4. Anders-

    Anders- 690R

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    Hmm, that makes me wonder, isn’t it possible to have the gps ask you before it’s creating the route? Kinda like when it asks about direct routing/car driving/motorcycle/etc.?
    I seem to recall having one unit setup like that, but maybe I got it mixed up with tomtom...
  5. AppliedMotion

    AppliedMotion Adventurer

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    Boy, did I screw something up. In an attempt to customize my background and vehicle symbols I got to a spot I can't get out of. I am stuck in a profile that doesn't have a menu page but three drawer pages. None of the pages have the setup choice or any other choice that lets me change what is displayed. Attached are pictures that show my only choices. Is there a way to access this in Basecamp? I'm not sure if the symbols were downloaded with a virus or if the Montana has a mind of its own. Any ideas?

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  6. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    Have you tried a Master Reset. It seems to be pretty "good" at messing up profiles if you aren't careful.
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  7. Triplog

    Triplog Adventurer

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    As wbbnm says - do a master reset - the Montana is quite good at getting back to a "factory setting" without deleting your routes/waypoints or even shortcuts and Profiles.
  8. AppliedMotion

    AppliedMotion Adventurer

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    Okay, I will research that and will report back.
  9. PoleRbear

    PoleRbear Been here awhile

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    I talked to a Garmin rep and he was able to help me out with missing cities. Here's what I had to do:
    Open SD card and see what files are there. There should be only a couple of folders, in Garmin folder I had three files named "gmapsupp" with different extensions and two other maps downloaded from internet. I have no idea how those other two maps ended up on the SD card but after deleting them address search works as it should and even looks a little different. Somehow my other maps were corrupting CNNA 2018. I'm a complete beginner with this so I guess I messed it up, still, I wish Garmin maps were a little more resistant to mistakes like that. All in all, Garmin rep was super helpful and really nice.

    On another note, Garmin MapInstall 4.2.0 just stopped working on my MacBook and now will not even start. I'm getting a crash report that I sent to the same Garmin rep I talked to as he seemed surprised to hear about it crashing like that and promised to follow up on that.
    In the report I found this:
    "Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'Modal session requires modal window'
    terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException"

    I tried Googling it but I couldn't find anything related to MapInstall. Did anybody else experienced it? Now I have no way to send maps into my Montana, unless theres another way I'm not aware of.
  10. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    Sounds like your are knee deep in sh~t. Good luck.

    I suspect you should never have had more than one gmapsupp.img file on the unit. I imagine that caused big confusion with the operating system.
  11. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    removing all the Garmin crap (including caches) in the max and installing again should fix it.
  12. FredRydr

    FredRydr Danger: Keep Back 300 Ft.

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    Are all Montana units the same from day one to the present, but for the firmware and the maps?
  13. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    The 600 is the base.
    The 650 is a 600 with a camera.
    The 650T is a 650 with more memory.
    The 610 is similar to a 600 but has more memory and GLONASS reception.
    The 680 is a 610 with a camera.
  14. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    I’ve got some setting goofed up in my Montana. When I put in an address to navigate to instead of showing me the route on the streets it’s plotting a cross country course, literally the shortest way.

    Help.
  15. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    In "Routing" there's a preference for "Activity". It's currently set to "Direct". Set it to something else. The location I mention is for 600/650 models. May be a different location on 610/680 models but it's there somewhere.
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  16. biker128pedal

    biker128pedal Super Lurker

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    Note use of direct route. Good for off road. Some rally’s will put way points before and after turns in routes. Using routing or the compass will point to the way point before the turn, then after arriving, it will point to the next way point for a hint of the direction to turn. Pine Barrens 500 does a nice job of it.

    Oh my 610 went crazy last week and would not connect to any satellites. I had to perform a hard reset twice to get it working.
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  17. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I was pleasantly surprised recently to note that OSM maps retain high levels of map detail out to the 3Km zoom level. Garmin CNNA loses map detail beyond the 1.2Km setting.
  18. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    Thanks all, Montana is behaving itself again.
  19. AppliedMotion

    AppliedMotion Adventurer

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    Master reset didn't do it. I went through the sequence and it asked me if I wanted to erase all user data. I said yes. It took along time to come back online. In fact, I had to plug it into a power source so it wouldn't run out of battery. I wasn't sure if plugging into a power source impacted things so I did it again. I put it outside to make sure it had a satellite signal. It just sat at the startup screen where it says Garmin in the middle and loading waypoints, tracks and routes in small font on the bottom. Waited over two hours and finally hit the power button to turn it off. Turning it on and it came back with the same limited options.
  20. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    Doesn't sound good.
    But I would try a few more Master Resets. I have found my success rate is about 1/3 in initiating one.

    You know you have done it right when you get the Erase files question dialog box. "Yes" is the correct answer. It doesn't actually erase any data files, but it does tend to screw up Profiles and track options.

    When you don't get that screen, it didn't register your push.

    I don't believe that having external power on has any effect. But I don't know that. Best I can remember is that I have not had external power when I did them.
    So maybe get it well charged first.