garmin.openstreetmap.nl d/l by continents (or manual selection only)?

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  1. hotwheels22

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    i'd like to download continental US and canada and maybe central america and mexico (if i can get it all on a 2 GB card).

    is there a way to multiple select in the pulldown or otherwise do this so i can keep the data organized by continent? i'm afraid my manual selection is going to be sloppy.

    i'm reading the available wiki documents that are linked but i am not seeing anything on this yet.

    also, does anyone mind eyeballing my /settings/ for a garmin 276?! i'm trying to get started here (reading the 276 manual and read a bunch of other GPS threads and links
    ) and it is a tad slow going.

    THANKS

    jon

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  2. khpossum

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    You will not be able to fit it all on your 2 gb card. I would make a map set for the western USA, the eastern half and then everything south of the border. Or if you have a specific plan for a south of the border trip select all of those map tiles of the us plus south of the border. That way you can load your C with all maps required for your trip. Manually selecting a map set is easy.

    Put them all on your mapsource as different map sets and from there put them on your 276 as needed.
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  3. khpossum

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    BTW, you can use javawa to rename your mapsets to something that makes more sense then the default name
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    thanks man. sure is slow going here.

    so, i will put in requests to OSM separately? two for US, two for canada and one for central america and mexico and maybe one for south america?

    and are you saying i can't get them on as a single dowload due to the space they take up collectively? i couldn't quite catch whether i can get them all on the 2 GB stick or whether i have to keep them individually on the desktop and load them individually to the 276 due to space constraints.

    and then when i get the downloads do i /import/ them into my desktop computer? on the mac i have basecamp, express, mapinstall and mapmanager.

    also - are the maps i downloaded basically stored in a folder on my DESKTOP computer and then /imported/ into basecamp?

    then using one of the other devices i import the map data to the 276?

    and i just use basecamp on my computer for mapping routes or tracks and i import THOSE into the 276?

    i mean, is that the workflow basically?

    sorry, trying to wrap my head around how the data flows while i also try to figure out how to get the 276 recognized by my computer (i guess i am having a USB version issue from what i can tell).

    THANK YOU
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    hi khp. thanks. got the javawa landing page and will be reading up on it in the coming days. APPRECIATE IT.
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  6. khpossum

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    I know it can be overwhelming when you start this exercise, but I can assure you it is easy once you do it once or twice.

    You download map sets. Sets of tiles you select on garmin.openstreetmap.nl make a map set. You select the "enable manual tile election" check box and you can either click on individual map tiles or draw a box around a bunch of them for a mass selection of tiles. Since you live in Texas it seems you would select all texas map tiles plus surrounding states, plus maybe some of the Mexico tiles. It all depends on what you think you will use for your regular riding. The web site has limitations as to how large of a map set you can download, but I am not sure what that limit is, you will find out. Request this selected map set from Garmin.openstreetmap.nl with your email address and you will get two emails, the first one a confirmation of your request, the second one with links to several formats you can download. I always use the installable version. Download it. They can be large and take time. It is an .EXE file you install. That is on a Windows computer, don't ask me about apple, I don't know. It then becomes visible in Mapsource of Basecamp as a map. From there you can download the maps onto your 276C from Mapsource or basecamp or Express. I suppose Express is the easiest. In have to admit I forgot how Express and the 276C work together, I always used Mapsource to put maps on my 276C. As you select map tiles in map source you can have a running count of memory required and number of tiles selected. Pretty handy. I am sure you can figure it out. If not let me know and I will pull my dust covered C out of the garage.

    So now you have one map installed on your computer and one on your 276C. If you want to download more maps you do it as a separate map on your computer and later on on your 276C. One or more of these map sets may fit on your 276, depending on the size of the map sets. But if you talk about downloading all of the USA, Canada and south of the border it will probably not fit on your 2 GB card. This means if you want to use the other map sets you have to download them into your 276C, but they will overwrite what was already there. A bit of a hassle, but not really of practical importance. You will probably not ride all of them on one trip. Living in Colorado I had all of the Western USA and some topo maps on my GPS and that took care of just about all my rides.

    When I plan a trip to Mexico I manually selected the map tiles I needed for that trip on openstreetmap.nl and from there onto my computer. You can have as many map sets on your computer, but your 276C is limited by the 2 GB card. It will handle multiple map sets as long as you don't exceed the 2 GB and IIRC a total of ~750 map tiles. For an extended trip I just create a custom map set that covers my trip.

    However, downloading more then one OSM map sets causes a bit of an issue. The downloaded maps as you get them from the openstreetmap.nl website all have the same name and installing a second map set would override (IIRC) the first one you installed and all have the same name. Javawa to the rescue. It is a great invaluable utility and his website has more handy dandy utilities to explore.

    Download Javawa GMTK and install it on your computer. A list of installed map sets shows up, one of them the openstreetmap.nl map set you installed. Highlight that map on JavawaGMTK. Go to the "Extra" tab and select "change map name and ID". For FID select any 4 or 5 digit number, any random number. It does not matter which number as long as it isn't a duplicate of a number used by another map. For "name on computer", "name on device", "Folder name" put in something like "OSM Texas" or "OSM 2018 trip" or whatever. Click the modify button and the map set now renamed and as such will show renamed in JavaWa and Mapsource / Basecamp

    You can now download a second map set and rename it to something meaning full with a different ID number. You can do this as often as you want and Mapsource or Basecamp will show all map sets. Download to your 276C as many map sets as fit on your 2 GB. Keep in mind that on the 276C you can select which map set you want to use.

    This is a lot to digest but it boils down to:
    Select a usable map set from garmin.openstreetmap.nl
    Download it from the email link they send you
    Rename it if with Javawa
    Repeat as often as you see fit
    Put as many maps on your 276C as fit on the 2 GB card or as you need
    Go ride.

    BTW, stick to it with the 276C. I have now a 276CX, but prior to that the 276C was by far the best motor riding GPS. Like all GPS's there is a learning curve that is longer then one or two weekends. It may take months to use it to its fullest extent, but very much worth the effort. You will acquire the necessary skills over time.
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    thanks a ton for this. i’m going to study it closely and get to work. been at it for awhile!

    i think i have a USB 1.0/2.0 issue getting the 276 recognized on the mac pro.

    any opinions on the cx versus the c?! if i fold the two i have i could probably spring for the cx and if it avoids some of the hassles i am having...

    garmin supposedly tells owners with the usb issue they are sol and i haven’t seen a solution.

    i do have an XP box but it is not connected to the internet...
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    For more opinions about the CX go to its dedicated thread at https://advrider.com/index.php?threads/garmin-announces-the-new-gpsmap-276cx.1178312/

    I have had mine now for 6 months and have been generally happy with it. It had the first year some deal breaking issues that have been mostly resolved. It is still not a prefect unit, mainly due to slow redraw rates at higher zoom rates. However overall it is an improvement to the C due to the larger and brighter screen. It operates just like a C, so if you know how to deal with it, you will know how to operate a CX. So, if you already have a C I suggest you use it for a couple of weeks or months to make sure it agrees with how you use a GPS. Then upgrade to the CX. People have used the 276C with Apple computers I believe, so do the research here on advrider and I am sure you will find a solution.

    Getting a wifi card for your xp box is possibly a (low cost) alternate solution if you have wifi at home.
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