Harley-Davidson CEO serious about releasing an Electric Motorcycle in 18 Months

Discussion in 'Electric Motorcycles' started by voltsxamps, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. TheProphet

    TheProphet Retired; Living the Dream

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    I've inserted my responses in Blue.

    it appears that you confuse Opinions with Fact, rumors with fact, etc. BS is an outright lie or falsehood, you also seem to be confused about what that (BS)means as well. You are also merely repeating previous anecdotal and/or opinionated stories from memory. Continuing to repeat them over again does not transform them into actual facts nor reality.

    You are 100% entitled to your personal opinions, which I totally respect, but if you attempt to offer them up as facts, and insert ancient made up stories as "proof", then no. Sorry. :-)

    Stories retold over and over, then added to, and garnished with each telling do not eventually become facts, they remain as fairy tales. :dllama:.... :dhorse

    As far as the unbelievably perfect and happy Buell owners go, here's a start:

    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/looking-for-buell-input.1189161/page-12#post-31557766

    Research before you besmirch...... :beer
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  2. ctromley

    ctromley Been here awhile

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    I'm perfectly willing to concede that no one has a monopoly on facts. However, I have spent a long career on separating facts from opinion. And I can see from your response why others have labelled you a one-person Harley Defense League. As for your example of 'unhappy' Buell owners, by your reasoning and that example, the BMW driveshaft issues should have wiped BMW off the map. Spoiler alert: they didn't.

    Let's see what Harley does with the Livewire. And how it ultimately plays out. That's where facts and opinions will meet the road. I wish Harley well with it. I'm just glad we have more than Harley to bank on for the advancement of EMs.
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  3. TheProphet

    TheProphet Retired; Living the Dream

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    Name calling and additional fact manipulation always help when attempting to defend an obviously incorrect point. Thanks for your contribution to the Thread though, and your considerable efforts. :beer

    FWIW, only failed bashers and Trolls, when they run out of ammo, and / or get caught out refer to us as "Defenders". I do the same for all brands of bikes, when someone spouts out fabric-facts. HD seems to be the most frequently bashed brand, so to the uninformed, it appears that way. We hear from you very frequently.


    Interesting that not one HD Livewire has been fully completed, nor sold to the public, but some folks are already attempting to condemn it. Me? I like to give every manufacturer an even chance to succeed, even if not on the first or second try. The Golden Rule is Three Strikes make an out.:ricky

    Note how at the end you almost made a positive comment, then couldn't help yourself and ended your post on the negative, displaying your true intent. :fpalm

    We knew all along. Cheers.
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  4. voltsxamps

    voltsxamps Advolturer

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    Well I hope that Harley does well with it, as I really like Alta and want their partnership to flourish so we can see more of their fantastic powerplants on the road. Harley has the infrastructure and recognition.. Alta has the leading tech (Zero right there with them) and though an unexpected combination, it’s what Harley needs to attract younger riders. It may take several years to take hold, but if they stick with it and support it, they can make the transition without too many speed bumps.

    If there’s one thing that Harley riders (well, most of us really) like, it’s torque, and electric propulsion has plenty of it. I credit them for developing their own sound signature, and for keeping the traditional design unmistakably HD, at least what we’ve seen with the Livewire. Speaking of which, I hope they keep that name when they produce their first official EM. They should follow with a bagger EM, and eventually an EM equivalent for all their current bike’s. There’s one category though that I think Harley should look into that would attract more younger buyers: ADV.

    When the tech allows for real world distances of 300 miles or more on a single charge, a decent HD electric adventure bike would certainly draw some attention. Alta packs the most energy density to date, and Harley’s are typically bigger bikes to begin with, so attach modular battery packs disguised as side mounted hard cases and 300-400 miles may be a real possibility. That kind of range works for the road warrior as well. If executed well, I am optimistic about the direction that HD & Alta are going.
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  5. Treadless

    Treadless avoiding gravity storms if at all possible

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    :scratch
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  6. Paebr332

    Paebr332 Good news everyone!

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    And TheProphet pollutes another thread with an off-topic screed... :fpalm
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  7. forkintheroad

    forkintheroad Been here awhile

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    I never really thought about an electric bike, but I'll admit, after years on a scooter and moving back to motorcycles, I hate the damn clutch and shifting. I've been pampered too long.
    I don't care too much about the brand either way. but if I HD could make a decent electric bike that would do what I need it to do, basically a commuter, I might be interested.
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  8. RCmoto

    RCmoto Long timer

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    Does it have to be HD? There are already electric commuter bikes available now.
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  9. forkintheroad

    forkintheroad Been here awhile

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    I've seen the Zero but not a huge fan of paying an extra $3000 for decent range compared to the base model.
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  10. Parx400

    Parx400 Long timer

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    Honestly you can call it a Harley in any other country except for the US. American Harley owners are the only ones who would get their leather panties in a bunch over a HD E bike.
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  11. T.S.Zarathustra

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    I am not a fan of the HD brand but if they make a fairly priced, decent quality/range/power electric motorcycle I'll gladly purchase it.
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  12. bionicman

    bionicman On your Mom

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    Guess H-D didnt steal enough information from Mission Motors....:hide
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