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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by dwestly, May 12, 2015.
That really is NOT my opinion. It's the threadfest summary.
I rode DCT AT yesterday. (i have a manual CT)
DCT is not perfect so i don't like it
Seat is too hard ! Incredible how it sucks for an adventure bike. Go for the Touratech seat.
Low torque, low power 95CH. I prefer more power.
Design is very good , this is THE reason why customers want it and price of course.
Only one of the two headlights is activated (low beam), don't understand this choice.
Oem tires Dunlop are a nightmare, very dangerous !
Tires tubetype LOL no comment
Oem sound is good
Maybe i go from my CT to this AT for weight. But the V4 is much better than the twin torque 'n power). Yamaha Super T is a good alternative too.
Still waiting for the bike, but my panniers are here. They look OK to me, left one is huge, the right one is miserable. Robust plastic.
Got info that BUMOT have a bike now to play with, so soon they will have a top quality aftermarker panniers for the AT.
I guess if you are a pavement pounder your comment would be valid.
10 years ago... the reason was that it may be $50k here BUT was 50k EUROS there! To run them cost a LOT of gas compared to local vehicles. I used to drive them from the South of France to Paris to pass inspections. IF you could afford one... you were just about a rock star OR just very rich! ahh those were the days :)
Dunno if it was already posted
Looking forward for some feedback about those panniers. They didn't look very solid in the videos
I handled them and to call them flimsy would be a compliment, paper thin plastic ,the aluminium is just a decorative cover and the locks are a joke
Flexible mounting seems to be a design choice the past few years for some manufacturers. Not sure what the advantages are, as I would think the poundage bouncing around haphazardly would be more chassis-unsettling than weight that moves in unison with the rest of the bike.
I imagine they'll break the first time the bike is dropped. Not a great choice for a bike that will ridden on dirt, but fine for those Africa Twins that never leave the tarmac.
I hate to be the one .... but i have to say this , film the bike riding the same spot with metal panniers bouncing on the rocks then watch it in slow motion , or just watch the touratech video carefully .
Laws of physics gents , with enough force most materials will flex , and some will fail faster than others ... i am sure that they have designed these panniers like this for a reason , But i have other issues with these boxes and that is why i am not buying them .
IMO Unless you ran some statistical software or made some other form of analysis, it does seem like your opinion to me to. There are some of the items on your list that are controversial maybe, such as aluminum frame. Lots of people prefer steel- it can be fixed because most adventure bikes will suffer from cracking subframes at some point in their life if they are used a bit hard. And I'm not sure about the stainless spokes either, as I read they are stainless, but just prone to discolouration
true... I saw a photo of 2 snooker balls colliding.... they 1/2 flattened into each other!
The 1150GS adventure bikes cracked subframes. The 1200Adv had these dicky looking frames that flecked and moved constantly, but yet the reports of subframes cracking reduced. So maybe there's method in the madness
Hmmm...I've never seen a cracked 1150GS sub frame. I currently own an 1150GSA and had another. Both are (were) ridden off road, friends owned them and they rode them off road a lot.
Long Way Round?
I'm not trying to trash BMW: sub-frame cracks are very common on ADV bikes. I've seen just about every manufacturer out there with cracked frames. This includes Africa Twins. Just said there appears to be less reports on 1200's, which still crack, than the previous 1150's
If you and your mates have not had an issues, then great. But it's more a question of when, not if.
The above was from the owners thread, bringing my speculative question here. Assuming the above, that means it would not be possible for a buddy to tow-rope a dead (out of gas for example) DCT bike, would it?
I don't think that towing would be impeded. When you hit the kill-switch while rolling, you still have oil pressure. The wheel rotates the engine components and the clutch remains engaged. If the engine was dead and stopped, the clutch would not engage due to lack of oil pressure.
I think you can tow, or push just fine.
Pure speculation of course:)
Thanks. Friends' bikes had about 100,000 miles when they were sold. No frame issues to my knowledge. Mine's got only 42,000 miles. It's a stout sub frame. My guess is overloaded panniers contributed to the breakage. The stock panniers don't have near the capacity as a set of Jesse's. Oh well, anything can break I guess.
Back to the regularly scheduled mayhem.