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Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Perp, Jul 4, 2018.
Can I buy one on the web and ship?
sure -- but it will likely be confiscated on the border.
If you figure this out, bring over a integra for me.
I know this is going to be a useless reply, but I remember researching this sometime back and I came to the conclusion that it was damn near impossible with any reasonable amount of funding, but specific details elude me now. Just too many regulations between EPA, DOT and CARB (in California), not to mention getting it through US Customs. This is probably why the manufactures don't bring a lot of these to the US, just not enough market to offset the expense. Bummer, I'd love to ride one of these (and a new TMAX with ABS please, are you listening Honda and Yamaha?).
If you want to bring something from Europe, it would be very, very difficult. First, you have to be able to buy the vehicle so you need a permanent address over there. Because the vehicle will be titled under your name, you will not be able to clear Custom with it. This is where it's a little tricky. YOU can not clear Custom (or cross the border with it). However, someone else who is not the owner can cross the border for a limited time only. This is for vehicles coming from Europe. In my mind, the easiest way would be to buy a bike from a guy who then ships it to the US and gets a 1 year permit for the bike. The permit can be renewed for a maximum of 3 years. You would have to fly the guy and the bike and have him fly back, leaving the bike with you. There is no way of registering that bike. The VIN contains digits that will show where the bike came from. But some people don't care.
It is much easier to bring (temporarily!) a vehicle from North America or South America. The problem of buying and registering the vehicle still remains wherever you want to purchase the vehicle. Mexico requires a permanent address for example. Usually, a Mexican dealer will ask you for your IFE anyway (which is more or less a voting card) so that adds to the difficulty of buying something. The problem then becomes finding the bike you want in a country where you can buy it. The only country I found that sells the X-ADV is Colombia. The X-ADV is sold in very small numbers too and it would be hard to get your hands on one to begin with. From my own research, I found that there is a loophole for non residents to buy and register a vehicle. So basically, you could get your bike plated in Colombia and have a Colombian title. The problem of bringing the bike to the US still exists. There is no way you will be able to ship the bike (air or sea) to a US city and go through Custom. I believe your only way would be to ride the bike to the Mexican border and try and cross at that point. I know a guy in San Antonio who flew to Peru and bought a Honda CG 125 and rode it all the way back to San Antonio. They gave him a temporary permit for his bike. He had 30 days.
Next shipment of X-ADV bikes to Colombia is in August. They might all be pre-sold.
I looked into it a while back:
Thank you sir. I have a plan.
The EPA and emissions should not be a problem since this is "almost" the same engine and tranny in the NM4 NC700 CTX700. If anyone figures away to get one in the USA please count me in - I'll figure a way to make the X ADV look like a NM4 paper wise!
Ship it over in pieces. Re assemble here.
Well if the one adv guy can get a bmw c1 scooter over here I dont see what you couldn't do that. All depends if honda plays ball . I ve read a few threads about import bike and it seem that getting a letter from the maker about complying with all regs can smooth the way . Really that's hard to do . About the only way is if you re at a big motorcycle show and manage to connect up with a big wig whom likes you and is well to go to bat for you . Really with the honda cub coming I dont see why honda would not at least bring them over . It's all about the cost to them . I m guessing a 300 to 700 grand . In canada they have to give the gov testing guys 5 ? or more what ever they want to bring in to test and then destroy . then theres the fact they have to have parts for 10 years for any model they bring in . That what the government wants.
Lets put it this way some guy have got jap cars they should not have here. Some of them get away with and some get crushed .
It's very easy to buy with just money and insure (export plates) with money and passport. No local address or bank account needed. Even the tax can be paid in advance with cash (as export plates expire automatically).
Annoying with red tape is typical for shithole countries, but Germany knows how to export vehicles.
Tell us more about those export plates. Spain had a matricula turistica that ended as of July 1st this year. I have spent of lot of time in France and do not know of any export plate system over there.
German words are "Ausfuhrkennzeichen" or "Exportkennzeichen" or "Zollkennzeichen".
The ADAC lists you shall provide:
id-card or passport
insurance (a special short term insurance for export, your agent will know - an online evb number is not enough!)
both vehicle papers
still valid technical inspection (German TÜV is for 2 years)
de-registration, if applicable
old number plates, if applicable
Of course much easier, if you buy new and do not drive/ride on the streets. You can carry it in you pocket and probably just declare at your customs.
That is pretty neat. How do you cross borders with such a title and plate? And I guess you can't really ride the vehicle either? The plates have an expiration date and are different than a regular plate. Europe wouldn't be a problem (may be) but I wonder about other countries.
For us in the US, there is still the problem of Customs and border crossing.
You can ride with export plates, because if you got them, your vehicle is (officially) roadworthy and insured.
Without plates it's just baggage. Declare your baggage at the customs leaving EU, getting stamps for in- and export, then you don't have to pay at every border.
But for US... I don't know. Rules may can change very quickly with a single tweet.
There are places (states, county tax offices) in the USA that are real sticklers for meeting all Federal & State regulations before they will issue a title. There are other places that have the attitude, "The Feds don't give us a thin dime for enforcing EPA & DOT regulations; cut a title and take that fella's money."