Is 2008 990 Adventure Injection Improved?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by MFish, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. hondahawkrider

    hondahawkrider DAMN Rider/Motardian

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    I personally think the 990 is ... touchy ... even for FI - or at least it was :D .. It felt waaaaaaay to tall and throttle response seemed notchy and at slower speeds it wasn't easy to find the sweet spot.... It was same even when I varied my start up procedures.. Start and ide it slow and easy till operating temp, or waiting till operation temp - then ride.

    I hadn't planned to farkle past bags - but the freaking thing melted my plastic zipper teeth on my stich... It was NOT on the exhaust, but like 8 inches away.... Damnnnn those fuckers are hot... Anyway, it's not got FMF exhaust - been regeared with a 16T sprocket - and it has the block off plates on it to bypass the emissions crap... HOLY SWEET JESUS, it's a entirely different bike now... It's easy to find the sweet spot - it's not so tall as to be gutless at slow speeds and the throttle is no longer NOTCHY..

    It's a whole nother beast now and I love it..
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  2. wildehond

    wildehond wildehond

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    Get a G2 Throttle anyway. You will NOT regret it.
    Make sure there is not to much slack on the cables.
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  3. Venteuri

    Venteuri I don't give a shit

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  4. Dusty

    Dusty Long timer

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    (Make sure there is not to much slack on the cables)

    1+
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  5. maddoggie501

    maddoggie501 Been here awhile

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    Well, I guess I spoke too soon. I have about 200 miles on my 08-990 and recently took it for a slow dirt ride. It was extremely jerky in 1st gear at low RPM's. I thought it was my throttle hand at first, but soon realized it was the fuel injection. I just received the May issue of Rider magazine and they road tested a 08-990 Adventure. The tester loved the bike except for the slow speed jerkiness from the fuel injection. He said KTM acknowledged the problem and said it was only on the early run of machines and that they have since fixed the problem. The magazine also mentioned a company called www.tuneboy.com.au which has a fix for the injection problems. I have two questions for the group. Does anyone know if there is any truth to KTM's early run story. And has any one tried the ECU products from tuneboy. Please give your comments and opinions. Thanks:clap
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  6. Venteuri

    Venteuri I don't give a shit

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    Read post #18 and turn-on without touching the throttle.

    Please try and post back.
    As well you may ask your dealer to install the latest map.
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  7. IBJim

    IBJim WhoUB?

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    My 07 990 is very smooth. The dealer put the updated stock map (10/02/07 map) on the bike before I got it earlier this month. I also just put a G2 throttle cam (#200 cam) on the bike, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes. It would probably be noticeable off road (but not on the gooey dirt road I've been riding). It's hard to make the bike "jerk" when I want to!!

    The G2 can't hurt (other than your wallet). You can always go back to the stock (#100) cam if you want to--2 bolts and 5 minutes to swap cams.

    NOTE: If you put Symtec/Dual Star foil-type grip heaters on the aluminum throttle tube, wrap the tube in thin shrink wrap or heavy electrical insulating tape first. Even with the warmer clutch-side heater on the throttle side, it's still too cold.

    But in my opinion- FI issue is sorted!!!

    :clap
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  8. tzanis78

    tzanis78 Adventurer

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    Hi! My bike is a 990 adventure (europe 06) and i ve done 23000km without any major problem (well i had a clatch slave cylinder failure :d). The bike is almost perfect but I think that the FI issue (jerky-snatchy) is still annoying...It is true that after a quick warm up (at least two bars) the throttle is much better but ...

    1 Has anyone installed Power Commander? Which are the benefits (performance, throttle response, jerkiness, torque)?

    2 Has anyone tried Tune Boy? Is there any significant differnce? Are the maps of Tune Boy different than the maps of KTM (stock and akras)? Has the FI issue solved? Are the cons for Power Commander that are mentioned in the site of Tune Boy true?

    3. How much better my jerky and snatchy thottle will be if I install Akras? Is it worth to change my standard stock map into Akras map?

    4. My dealer said that for my bike (europe 06) the new standard map (07) isnt necessary. Is it really true? :S. Is it any significant improvement and in which perspective?

    5. How can i make my bike to behave like the old carbs (ie adventure 950 =easier wheelies, robustness):p?

    PS :G2 throttle cam and 16 front spocket would be my last solutions just because I think that there are third parties in my beloved...(I know its silly...:D):freaky:freaky:freaky
    :ear
    Thanks...
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  9. maddoggie501

    maddoggie501 Been here awhile

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    i did the warm up procedure without touching the throttle this morning going to work as well as coming home. I must say it's pretty amazing that the jerkiness was gone. I wasn't sure until I got on the pegs and slowly crawled around the parking lot in first gear. It was smooth and no jerkiness, what a major difference. I think the secret is exactly as mentioned previously, don't touch the throttle while its warming up. I let mine get 3 bars showing. Thanks for the advice.:clap :clap :clap
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  10. Ishamael

    Ishamael Been here awhile

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    I have never been happy with the snatchy response of the throttle. It became much more acute during my trip to Baja. Since there was no change in elevation to speak of, I would have to guess that lower octane fuel played part.
    Thanks to the advice on this thread, I went ahead and checked the throttle cables, and tightened to what seems appropriate. Tomorrow I will go for a ride after letting the engine warm up to the two bar mark.
    Cross my fingers that this will help the jerky issue. Other then that, the bike is exactly what I need.
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  11. ronsolo

    ronsolo Hooplehead

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    I had a Yamaha FJR 1300 which is about the same price as the 990. The FI was so bad I had to get a Power Commander for it.
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  12. alphajory

    alphajory Been here awhile

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    I too find that the 2 min warm up clears up the jerkyness. Mine is still new with the new map. Now if i can only increas the fuel economy all will be good.
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  13. mysterio

    mysterio Eventually an Adventurer.

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    ..And where can I get these...'G2 thottle cams'?
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  14. mudandrocks

    mudandrocks anywhere

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    G2 throttle cam takes care of much of the jerky action of the fuel injection. I just installed one the other day with the 300 cam. The bike is a much easier ride. Slow rides thru the parking lot dont make you look like such a squid. It does make the bike seem slower because it doesnt snap up into the rpm's as quick but I can live with the trade off of better small throttle opening performance.
    I dont reget the change.

    Jeff
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  15. Gravel Traveler

    Gravel Traveler Been here awhile

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    Just took my 990 for it's first off road ride. It's an 08 990. I put on a set of Akra cans and had it remapped with tune boy. I rode a short section of single track and a few miles of abandoned road. I don't find the response abrupt in the tight stuff, HOWEVER, turning the throttle on a 90+ HP V twin isn't like rolling on a 250cc 2 stroke through the woods. Lets not forget it was designed to rip through the desert WFO not be ridden like a trials bike. I love this bike, but even with the 16 tooth CS sprocket you need to slip the clutch under 15 MPH. Best advice, follow the warning stickers on the Blue ones and GO!!!!!!!
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  16. stickysidedown

    stickysidedown Been here awhile

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    Rode a UK 08 990 last weekend, pick up was faultless from the bottom, no worse than my 950 that I rocked up on, couldnt have said the same last year when I rode the 07.
    I fail to see how its response could have been better by changing owt, tried to trip it up, played with some gravel and mud (shhh didnt tell the dealer that part)snatched the throttle on and off and all i got for my trouble was a wave of big v-twin torque.

    Was on standard cans BTW

    Dealer told me the map/fuelling has been revised for the 08's which could be bull but the results spoke for themselves regardless, something was much better:clap

    All I can suggest is if your in the market for a new one in the UK have a look out for the next dealer Orange day and go try it for free, and then grin like a masturbating chimp all day like I was until I realised now I need to buy the 08 to replace my carbie:becca
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  17. jwalters

    jwalters Farkle Proliferator

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    I'll chime in with my $.02. Unfortunately, I am just going to recite what has already been said to death. The throttle was a bit snatchy at first. But now that the bike is a month old and has seen 1500 miles its broke in much better. Also going with the Akrapovic exhaust and the Akra fuel map, helped a bit too.

    This may seem obvious, but I think some folks need to make sure they keep their throttle cables tight. I know from first hand experience that this will make the touchy throttle seem worse than it is because you are "unaware" of the throttle position.
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  18. Venteuri

    Venteuri I don't give a shit

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    bump with a miracle cure for the jerkiness!
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  19. Mad Kaw Disease

    Mad Kaw Disease Dual Sport Diseased

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    +1 on the two bar warm up it is absolutely critical to smooth operation. I have enjoyed my 2007 990 greatly since being educated on the proper warm up and have over 14,000 miles on it.

    Having said that I recently took my KLR for a ride and posted an an apology to all the carb guys I've argued with. The KLR is unquestionably smoother in throttling through twisties or in traffic. I'm going to try the G2 - 400 and a 16 tooth counter shaft as a result of my experience hopping between the two bikes. and the advice from other inmates.
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  20. roundtripping

    roundtripping Adventourist

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    The 400 and 16 tooth are probably gonna be great in some serious dirt. In the twisties you're gonna be bored to death with the 400 and on the open road you're gonna vibrate to death with the 16 tooth. :D
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