Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Raconnol

    Raconnol Long timer

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    @rtwpaul was in Botopilies a few weeks ago and reported the rivers west where still chest high and impossible to cross.

    Never met Donnie and Modesta however, I quickly found his posts, which provided very helpful and informative when doing my research here on riding in Mexico.

    It is never a good thing when someone passes, and they always seem to young. Having a severe accident in Mexico came up more than once with before and during my most recent trip to Mexico this summer with my son. We took all the precautions, including having an inReach as well as uploading all of our essential documents to the Microsoft Cloud and ensuring all our family knew how to access all of our valuable information.

    After my little get off this summer, there was lots of time for reflection and the what if game. I am not in a position to speak for anyone else, however,
    having lost both a parent and grandparent to very long and protracted illness, for me, I can honestly say I would much rather die in the side of the road and in a ditch covered with dirt and gasoline than in a hospital bed covered in urine and faeces.

    Maxium respect to Donnie, Modesta and their families.

    Rick
  2. GeauxBiker

    GeauxBiker Aventurero motocicle

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    I too had a bad get off in ‘15 just outside Durango that allowed me 5 days in the hospital there. Rode my taped and wired up KLR to the border, very thankful to be alive. The thought of not going back or not getting back on my bike never entered my mind. I was only worried that my head injury, vertigo and all, might prevent me from doing something that was so precious, something that gave me such a feeling of total freedom and satisfaction. I am thankful that I was able to load up and get back on that wonderful, two-wheeled steed, one that would bring me back again into Mexico to see and experience the beauty of its lands and people. A risk? Always! Worth it? Damn right! Thank you God for allowing me another chance to experience it!
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  3. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan aka SkiddMark ;^)

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    Was in Batopilas Dec 29-30 and the river was flowing at a 'normal' level but the landslides, bridge damage and general road surface west
    was still reported to be difficult to impassable in areas. Waiting for a more recent report.
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  4. Phlyn' Phil

    Phlyn' Phil Been here awhile

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    The road to Urique seems pretty rough for a big bike, and my dirt skills aren't what they used to be, So sounds like Im the guinnea pig, on pig.... Whatever, my favorite taco cart in el Fuerte is calling my name....
  5. jml141

    jml141 Been here awhile

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    Donnie's sister messaged me just now and said that the tentative plan is for the funeral to be Thursday or Friday of next week. She said that they will make arrangements on Monday and should have Donnie back by Wednesday. I will let you know when I hear more.
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  6. mitchxout

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  7. AndyT

    AndyT Been here awhile

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    From the linked article:

    [For instance, Brazil. Colombia, India and Indonesia all rate the same warnings for specific areas, ]

    Personally, I welcome posts like this. Warnings are always worth reading, but this is getting publicity because the state dept changed their rating system, and these trouble areas are at the top of the new rating system.
  8. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan aka SkiddMark ;^)

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    Billy Jennings told me tonight that services will be held in the funeral home in downtown Clarksdale, not the one out on the highway. Weather forecast looks pretty cold with possible icing for those looking to make the drive. I’m planning to head out from Austin Wed or Th if anyone in this area would like to attend. Will be taking the car.
  9. Turkeycreek

    Turkeycreek Gringo Viejo

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  10. stormdog

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    Going from Boto. To Urique to El Fuertes would be a long day, probably best to lay up short at Urique and do it in two.
    Running from Boto to Creel through Divisidaro, down to Tubaras and out to El Fuertes is a two day run with a lay over in either Creel or one of the towns just past the turn off past Divisidaro(sorry too lazy to walk into the other room to get the names off a map)
    So both are two days from Boto to the taco stand
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  11. Phlyn' Phil

    Phlyn' Phil Been here awhile

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    I’ll see what the locals have to say, decide from there I guess. Thanks for the advice storm dog, et al.
  12. chilejack

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    Here is the part of the report that may be most meaningful:

    Michelle Bernier-Toth, head of the Office of Overseas Citizens Services, reiterated these travel warnings are not new, but explained changes were made because few people understood the distinctions in the previous, broad rankings

    In other words, nothing has changed, just a new way to categorize the information, and get some news coverage! Carry on and use your common sense.
    Mexico is the same as it ever was. The real culprits in the drug wars are those purchasing the product. Do you think all those street vendors in the tourist centers are hawking their wares to the Mexicans?
  13. cwc

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    I trust that you know that the locals will see your bike and make unrealistic estimates of travel time. In addition most of them have never been to Urique or Choix. They would have no reason to go either place in most cases.
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  14. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Actually, better
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  15. GregDavidL

    GregDavidL Been here awhile

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    Looking for some recommendations for a post divorce chill out trip to Mexico. This would not be on a motorcycle at this time. My ex was from Guadalajara and I spent a lot of time with her family and friends in Chacala and I love going there. This trip I'd like to go to a different town in the same area North of Puerto Vallarta. Sayulita? It seems big, but this might be OK as a decompression trip. Others suggestions? Thanks.
  16. severely

    severely almost a noob

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    Sayulita seemed pretty busy to me, maybe San Blas, a little farther north. Good luck.
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  17. GregDavidL

    GregDavidL Been here awhile

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    Thanks.
  18. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Expand your horizons. Fly into Oaxaca and wine and dine yourself. Then public transport to Mazunte/Zipolite. Get your flip flop vibe on and talk to the local ladies and the Euro Backpacker Babes from Madrid. Then fly out of there. You'll be largely cured.
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  19. Cal

    Cal Long timer

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    Skip Sayulita and go right to Lo de Marcos go all the way to the beach, there are 2 hotels on the beach the one 50 yds from the sand has great owners and great prices
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  20. Phlyn' Phil

    Phlyn' Phil Been here awhile

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    Ya, I know it will not be perfect info, Im not relying on anyone, Ill just check it out and see. The route to Urique seems pretty cut and dry, anyone got any pointers for Urique to Tubares, looks to go through a mine operation.

    @GregDavidL
    Sayulita is a little busy these days, I was just telling myself I should try san Francisco or lo de marco this time when I get there.
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