James Cowton

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Andrew2, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Andrew2

    Andrew2 Long timer

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    Another has died. James Cowton with Ivan Lintin in critical condition. I love my road riding and road racing but I've seriously got to wonder where the line must be drawn for their own safety. It's ok saying they died doing what they loved but what about the family they leave behind?.

    RIP James
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  2. Big Willy

    Big Willy Gen. Italia

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    Those blokes are like the Everest climbers. They know they can come unstuck in an instant.

    Very sad for relatives and yes, in this day and age, it is surprising that it is still allowed.
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  3. Rider 101

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    1 climber in 10 die.
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  4. braaap!

    braaap! Long timer

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    RIP, WOT!
    You’re a long time dead... So each to his own choices.
    Condolensces to the families and loved ones.
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  5. Rider 101

    Rider 101 Time poor

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    As you get older you start to contemplate death. I know it is a morbid subject but the grim reaper will catch up with all of us. I think I would prefer to go out in an instant instead of being stuck to bed sheets for years.
    Remember James and he will be immortal. Condolences to family and friends but put his short life on display with pride.
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  6. OldDog

    OldDog non impediti ratione cogitationis

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    Sad news indeed theres been a few go lately. Ride on James
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  7. Richarde1605

    Richarde1605 Been here awhile

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    Had a discussion about this topic today, there are many ways to die, and it will find us all. I take no pleasure from the fatalities, but I do love the riders that put it all on the line roadracing. Vale those that died doing what they loved.

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  8. Gone Troppo

    Gone Troppo Somewhat bemused observer

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    I agree with all of the above....but you have to wonder if modern bikes are just getting too powerful for tight road courses.....not the full IoM course...but the Southern 100 and some of the Irish races run through some awfully narrow sections with zero run off.
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  9. gunnabuild1

    gunnabuild1 Long timer

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    The first 100 mph lap was in 1957.
    Is it more dangerous now than it was then ?
    Sure, the bikes are so much more powerful nowadays but the same applies to brakes, tyres and suspension.
    I think we have just reached the limit of human ability at this task.
    These guys that race are among those in the vanishingly small percentage that can do this.
    And there will be tiny increments of constant improvement.......at least until the autonomous motorcycle becomes a thing.
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  10. Gone Troppo

    Gone Troppo Somewhat bemused observer

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    Yes....you only have to watch the on board videos to see how quick it all happens now...

    What has shocked me the most is the number of really experienced riders who have left us in the last year.

    Kneen was an IoM local and BSB racer....and Dunlop....what can you say?

    The section where Kneen died is very rough, with lots of large trees right up to the road.

    Dunlop apparently bottomed out and knocked off his sump plug...
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  11. LivingdeadCamo

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    Had this discussion with a mate when the last Dunlop ended his life behind the bars of a race bike. The mate is an amateur racer and was appalled that these blokes would risk it all when they have families.

    The irony in that is, don't we all risk it all to some degree for the enjoyement of riding? Difference is, these blokes have refined their skills and honed their reflexes over many years of elite riding and training. They wear the latest and greatest gear and have teams of people to ensure every saftey measure is taken to minimise the risk.

    I hope that "in the free world" people are free to choose the way they live.
    9-5 at a steady job for 50 years, mortgage with picket fence, nice holidays to theme parks for 75 years of life or..... follow your dreams and do something you love because you can?
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  12. mudmonster

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    One of many unfortunately ...RIP
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