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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by B1, Mar 29, 2017.
Really? From Forma?
Not Forma proper from US importer Frontier.
Wow, rather unsettling.
Freedom of speech, no?
Time to bring out the guns...
Well the 1st amendment only prohibits congress from passing laws limiting freedom of speech so any private entity twitter, blog etc can establish own rules and it does not protects you from litigation you still can be liable in civil court for defamation.
Regardless I am not taking video down because fuckers leaked within 6mo and if I get summoned will just mount new tire and ride it on to west coast for appearance.
Let's get back to 690, peace.
Right, back on track.
(from https://www.hojresor.se/2014/05/14/ )
The timing ring is a part of the flywheel on my '12 so I gather the design changed sometime between 08 and 12.
Link to vid?
My Terra's are leaking after 6 months though I suspect I may have found the entry point.
Here's a link to cyclopatchics wet feet:
I found the 690 review to be pretty on point. I bought a 2017 this year to make a lightweight ADV bike. I quickly decided I needed to address several items to make it a bike I wanted to ride. Most new bikes I leave pretty stock for longer and changes are more gradual. It's true IMHO that in stock form the 690 is a bit of a redheaded stepchild. Heavy and clumsy for enduro work. Too small a fuel range and uncomfortable to be much of a long distance D/S lightweight ADV bike. Stock mapping wasn't bad - but it's much better down low with the intake/exhaust mods and re-map.
Some of the mods are a bit irksome to fork out for when one is paying top dollar for the bike stock. So why did I buy it? The answer is that no other modern bike checks all the boxes better for what I wanted. (Other than possibly the 701 but my local dealer who I like sells orange).
Footpegs: Had to install lower footpegs.
Bar height/vibes: I installed KTMs PHDS with green inserts and a bit more rise.
Forks: Installed JBI base valves to get rid of the harshness of the stock forks.
Replaced the weak rear brake lever with a stout aftermarket one.
Added a more protective skid plate.
Installed the PP radiator braces.
Rally Raid open top air intake.
Lynx dash/Fairing/headlight combo
Perun rear rack
I'll likely add a Safari gas tank to increase range before heading west with the bike. I'm undecided on a stabilizer. I thought for certain I was going to need one at first. Now with the forks behaving better I may be fine without one.
It's a lot of coin to throw into a brand new bike to get it to a point it doesn't annoy me. As the bike is now I like it a lot.
This thread has been good for a prospective 690 buyer (me). Lots of good points; both positive and negative. I will continue my search for a 690 knowing that it may need mods to make it better. My preferred dealer is a KTM expert which means I will be buying a KTM. Also, their service manager is a certified 690 junky so I know I will get in-depth advice and counsel.
Bought a 690r new in 2012. initial problems were related to the extreme lean conditions, running hot, stalling, backfires etc. The fix was pretty simple, tossed the stock exhaust and created a new map for it with tune ecu, basically fattened up fueling 5% across the board. Tried the various map settings and while wild was fun it was complete shit for technical off road and only fun for hooligan riding on road. There was just to much on or off jerkiness to the throttle inputs. Wiring harness needs to be inspected for rub points and preventative measures taken on at least two know sections. Once that's done it seems pretty good and I never had additional issues with mine. I had a 690 and two of my friends had 690s and all had similar rub points across MY 08, 09 and 12. No issues with the rockers on my 2012 but my friends 08 had a problem. Also a known issue based on stock number and once replaced seem to resolve the issue. Two other items that are also known and easily fixed, weak seat pan and tank bolts. I rallied the bike and off roaded it for 15k. Awesome bike. I ran stock suspension no mods and found it took awhile to work in and it took me awhile to set it up though I should have replaced the springs as they're good for 180lbs rider and without gear I'm 200lbs. Never any notable issues and the bike was an extremely strong runner, but it isn't a dirt bike in the sense of say a 500exc. My riding was more off road and so I trader the 690 for a new 500 in 2015.
As far as failures on bike, any bike, I see a lot of people who simply don't do basic maintenance. Sure run it through the sand and silt, park it and repeat for a month. Then go for a mud run and bounce over some rocks and then rip down the highway. Take the pressure washer to it and make it look pretty. Change the oil after 5000km of this and think about shaking out the air filter...then complain when the bike starts to run poorly. I get it, some parts and design approaches have inherent issues but is you are going to use the bike hard then up the interval and do it right, a little grease around the rim of the air filter, make sure it is properly seated as well. Don't go from zero to hero without warming up the bike and letting the oil get up to the top of the motor after it sat over night. If you run through deep mud and water and sent roost 25' up and over you and your bud expect that a lot of that shit is going to end up filling the cracks and voids under the seat, under the battery tray and at the ending of the wiring harness loom.
690's just push my buttons. Don't really care how many bits you have to change because every rider requires a different setup, just that most of us don't have the experience to understand whats not working or how to fix it.
I love KTM for this bike, in Australia where owning a Pumpkin usually makes you a cashed-up bogan with a tuff stamp. (ie, some kind of EXC 500ish shit you actually don't know how to ride)
Bigger tanks, tank bolts, lights, panniers and action! I have to say I can't leave it alone but I'm only changing it to suit me. Coming off a TE511 I have no idea what people are whingeing about with close ratio box but the false neutrals shit me. Oh well, back to 80's motocross left foot. It goes like a train, carries a ton of gear and I can throw the luggage off and embarrass boyracus temporarius and dirttrackia flatstrappus on their home ground if I really channel the old beast.
I wont sell this heap for a long time, I might buy other sharper focused bikes, (christ, I hope so!) but apart from a supercharger, to catch my wife's BMW and some stegpegz, currently on backorder, I'm rapt.
The list of stuff is huge though, but half of it is just fun. At 6'4" and 98kg I've never found a better all rounder that does all the rounds well above average.
Come for a ride
^ You should write ad-copy for KTM...
great to hear rcfitch! as expected a few guys get their noses out of joint because i took a critical approach to the 690 but the original idea was just to throw this into the mix of mainly glowing reviews so propective buyers get a bit of a balance.
Thanks sprouty, is it a paying gig?
My workmates call it the Homeless bike, compared to shiny new stuff others ride.
Have to say it doesn't seem to cause trouble or embarrass me so I s'pose I might be lucky.
In fairness I have put a lot of parts and time into it and I think it's worth it cause i can't find an alternative bike as versatile.
Bit of a cliche maybe but I'm keen to see the list of bikes that can carry this much stuff, single track pretty well if you ask it or motard like an eejit.
I genuinely believe it fills a niche that over-heavy adventure bikes or lightweight road/trail focused machinery can't match.
And it does it well, it's not a DR650 and I can unleash the hooligan as required.
Always happy to debate the reality!
Obviously, it's a dualsport. The "enduro" word has been misappropriated as a marketing model name for dual-pupose bikes at least since the 70s (Yamaha DTs). No mystery here. No, the 690 is not an enduro competition bike. That would be the EXCs.
Glad to have cleared that up for you.
The 690 is for going fast on less technical stuff. And it's a total hooligan machine with 17" sticky rubber
I know this is an old thread ,but incase it still gets looked at I own a SWM 650 Superdual ( old TE 630 Husky ) I thinks its a fantastic bike and for $ 10500.00 ride away ( AUS ) is great value. I rode a 690 and it just dident gel with me. I know there are alot of 690 fans , I just think for the money and the mods and fixes you need to do to improve the bike isent that good compared to the price you pay for it, ( the 701 Husky would be a better option ) Iv done around 4000kms on my Superdual so far with at least 50% of that off road and 25% of that snotty stuff. Thier are some issues most minor and only one major ( if you can call it that )
1. Key is a pain to get in and out - you get used to it
2. Seat is restrictive - I have modded it and now great ( I have also done this to most of my bikes )
3. Rear brambo brake a bit to harsh for the dirt ( need to be very gental applying - great for black top )
4. Front forks could use more travel ( only 210mm )
5. The only major issue with the bike is a bolt on rear shock adj side that is connecting rear foot peg frame to sub-frame ( is to long and thin ) has brocken on a few S/D but not on mine ( has come lose ) I locktighted it in - but just keep an eye on it. You can also remove the rear foot pegs and put a smaller bolt as well this would fix the problem . Bike is only really a solo bike anyway.
1. VERY easy to service , oil, filters ,Plugs and valve adjements , ( same as TE 630 Husky which were a great motor )
2. great quality suspension Sach rear shock 270mm of travel - front is good to just could be a little more travel ( but it is an ADV bike )
3. Handles fantastic on dirt and black top and twisties is great ( like a Supermoto )
4. Brakes are brembo - front is fantastic not over powerful which is great for off road and great for on road ( mine 2017 model non- ABS , 2018 has swithable ABS )
5. Comes standard with Crash bars, bash plate , hand guards , rear rack, fully adj- suspension, 6 speed fuel injected motor, rear cush drive and 19 lt tank.
6. It is probely the least vibe big single I have EVER ridden , no vibes throught the bars and only minor in pegs and tank over 120kph.
7. Fuel range is around 400km on a tank.
8. also has a screen as standard and 12volt wiring plug + position to place one. ( easy to do )
Its not as powerful as a 690 or 701 having 53hp , but is a VERY smoothy engine its built as an ADV / Dual sport -Bike , but can do some pretty full on dirt ! as its basiclly taken from the Husky TE 630 and SWM 650 RS- they would do more snotty stuff as they are more enduro focused - like jumping logs and mounts etc - and have the extra travel at front. They are built in Italty in the same factory that Husky used to be in and desigened by same engineer. All parts except the Plastics and some other minor parts come from China. And for $ 10500 ride away ( in Aus ) 20,000kms warrantty or 2 years is pretty good.
Owned both the RS650R (lots of issues...) and now the 690 enduro r - no comparison hands down the 690 is a better bike.
When I get off my 690 Enduro R I smack it on the ass and grinning look back at it as I walk off.