KTM 790 Adventure

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by 2whlin, Oct 8, 2017.

  1. chasbmw

    chasbmw Long timer

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    I saw a 790 duke a couple of days ago, at a track day, keeping up with the big boys in the experienced group, What struck me was how tiny the engine is and really narrow.

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  2. Eleiko

    Eleiko Adventurer

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  3. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    The 790 looks tiny, low with Chris Birch riding it or at its side.
  4. windblown101

    windblown101 Long timer

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    Another way to think about it.... KTM created separation in their big long range comfort bikes by killing the 1190 and coming out with the 1090 which is basically a stripped down 1190 with a few tweaks and no centerstand. This allowed them to drop the the MSRP to better compete with in the low 500lb wieght class and created a higher degree of prestige via that separation for their flagship, the 1290. If that was the goal/plan I don't see the 1090 going anywhere unless sales tank.

    The 790 by the looks of it is going to sit right between the 690 & 1090 in terms of long range comfort. It will potentially appeal to guys like me for it's longer range and superior comfort over the 690.

    I'd guess the 690 is in more danger of going away than the 1090 if the 790 is a success. The 500 EXC is quickly becoming respected as a long range D/S bike and it's twice the dirt bike the 690 is and not a lot worse on pavement, IE both pretty much suck after 300-400 miles in a day. Generally only hardcore folks that want to run long distance and then go play in something gnarly would take either on a long distance multi-day trip.

    That leads me to why I think the 790 leaves room for the 1090. Folks that want a 1090 want some combination as follows: A) Don't want to spend 1290 money. B) Want comfortable two-up capability. C) Either don't mind picking it up multiple times a day, or don't plan to get in technical terrain with it, or they place a very high priority on long range comfort and willingly deal with the weight when things go south.

    I was one of the latter until I started to consider all the remote solo riding I do and picking up an 1190R wasn't always easy... That forced me to the 690 for long trips that involved anything much more difficult than semi-technical terrain. The change was strictly a bike weight decision. Sadly the 690 sucks to slam 600 miles on in a day if you need to get home in a hurry. Enter the 790, lighter than the big beasts, much more comfortable than a D/S and carries 40lbs of gear better, and still has what sounds like a decent amount of grin inducing power.

    I think the 790 will either be nearly perfect and a huge hit, or it will miss the mark by a hair in too many areas and be a short lived memory.

    Tick-Toc... another few minutes closer to seeing one in person to see what all the fuss is about. ;)
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  5. kvango

    kvango Been here awhile

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    So when they move production to China - KTM will save thousands on each bike . . . and pass the savings on to us? :jack
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  6. Big Tall Bastard

    Big Tall Bastard Voice of Reason

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    If the 790 costs around 11-12k instead of 14 plus then yes. Anybody know what a 950 SE cost new in 2007? I'll bet it was more than 11k
  7. Pitster

    Pitster miniac

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    The se was between 9500-10500 depending on the dealer.
  8. Big Tall Bastard

    Big Tall Bastard Voice of Reason

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    Thanks did the info
  9. oldfuddy

    oldfuddy Long timer

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    MSRP was more, $12.9K in the US I believe, but as mentioned above most went for well below MSRP.


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  10. dzrtracin

    dzrtracin ride'n 2 live

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    If I remember correctly my SE was $12,300 otd @ the end of 06, actually was August. Bought from KTM of Mojave.
  11. PilbaraGoat

    PilbaraGoat Been here awhile

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    The 690 would not suck so bad for 600 mile (bitumen) days if they put the new motor in it (ala the 701), and put a rally kit on it. They've got the all the parts already ffs.

    But it's not the even 600 mile days that worry me, it's the 100 mile days.

    There is a huge separation between classes :

    Enduro : 500's
    Stripped down, no excess weight

    Adventure : 690 rally
    Extra hp, extra comfort, extra fuel

    Tourer : any twin
    True two up capacity and maximum comfort

    I just wish ktm saw it that way.
  12. Big Tall Bastard

    Big Tall Bastard Voice of Reason

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    So a 12K 790 ADV 12 years later would be passing a lot on to buyers. Thanks for the info
  13. MeinMotorrad

    MeinMotorrad Long timer

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    The 690 does not suck.
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  14. AndrewMacc

    AndrewMacc Adventurer

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    I'd like to see a 790 Adv. The 990 R I ride is too much for my abilities and it's just too much bike. It's so powerful and heavy that I'm afraid to push the envelope and learn new skills. I still have it but only because I can't get over the sound and power on pavement. I'm regressing to a 640 Adv for exploring and getting something else for asphalt. Maybe a Duke or an older VFR for which I have an itch.

    It humbling to admit that I'm not up to using the 990 for more than fast paced dirt roads. Even minimum maintenance road with wash outs and ruts give me pause. The risk to flesh and bone isn't worth it to me for the sake of a bit of fun. The 790 looks to me like it might be more manageable. I'd prefer to have only one bike, but for now it might take 2 pegs to fill the hole.
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  15. SoilSampleDave

    SoilSampleDave Dr. Zaius was right!

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    Yes it does. And it will continue to suck until it gets a wide ratio transmission.
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  16. Anders-

    Anders- 690R

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    Does not. Next question? :lol3
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  17. SoilSampleDave

    SoilSampleDave Dr. Zaius was right!

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    You know what they say; there’s an ass for every seat. But my ass won’t be on another 690/701 until I get my demands met!
  18. MeinMotorrad

    MeinMotorrad Long timer

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  19. SoilSampleDave

    SoilSampleDave Dr. Zaius was right!

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  20. GR0NK

    GR0NK Got some screws loose!

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    I don't think the 790 will have much to offer you. It might be a bit lighter but it's not going to be 100lbs lighter than a 9xx bike. Also, while the motor is smaller in displacement it still makes right about the same power as the 9xx LC8 motors.





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