KTM may have a new Adventurer on the drawing board

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Pete640, Aug 21, 2015.

  1. El Ponkin

    El Ponkin Bloodrunner

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    I think there was a time 10 years ago when KTM sales went through the roof and KTM struggled to keep up, that was certainly when the early 950's had some manufacturing errors for sure and may have been the case across the board. Certainly the later 690s and 990s are much better sorted than the earlier versions.
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  2. overlandr

    overlandr Dystopist

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    Maybe there's a word of caution there for would be early adopters of the 790A? Interesting to see the all powerful effect of the concept of NEW at work. Wonder why so many are drawn to it.

    * corrected.
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  3. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    Hey i never said that, that was ponkins post :fpalm
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  4. a2zworks

    a2zworks Want to be a better rider

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    Go back to El Ponkins post and read it carefully to exactly understand the meaning of his post, because that is not what he is saying. Then comeback and put it in your own words what he wrote.
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  5. overlandr

    overlandr Dystopist

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    Sorry BygDaddee, obviously my error - am blaming it on this crappy android OS/human interface!

    Yes, agreed I cherry picked the quote and took it to support the point (mine, not his) that new to market products can have more faults than "end of product life" ones. Of course, I hope I'm wrong and the 1st 790A is as good as the last (in the mid 2020s?!)
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  6. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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  7. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente #501 Team f5oolery

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    the 790R fuel tank is metal...

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    the rear subframe is cast alloy

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    the passenger footpeg hangers are poxy (why a pillion anyway?)

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    it's a neat bike... for a roadie...
  8. lurkin

    lurkin Been here awhile

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    Sum pages back there was speculation:jack on KTM weights and in particular the 1090 as it was hoped that it was the basis of the “25kgs less than our current offering” statement by KTM
    So in the latest AMCN they have taken most of the big adv bikes for a spin and more relevant to here , weighed them.

    KTM claim a dry weight of 207 kgs , as tested with fuel (23l) AND hard panniers it came in at 250 kgs

    What panniers weigh I have no idea , guessing less than 10 kg , more than 5 ???

    All in all , the current crop of 1000 cc bikes are pretty hefty , with a bit of luck the new unicorn may come in as light as the original 950 Adv :amazon
  9. DR Steve

    DR Steve Been here awhile

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    I've roughly weighed my 1090 with some bathroom scales and came up with about 250 kg. No panniers but a small safe case as a top box, bash plate and center stand. I've been meaning to hang it off the chain block with my digital scale to double check. I don't take much notice of the published weights as they all seem to tell lies...
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  10. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    My 3 Givi Trekker panniers cases, 33 + 46 + 52 L, weigh 15 kg. Those flip-top sections add a lot of weight.

    Would be good to know what panniers and racks were fitted.
  11. bigborett

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    It's probably about right.
    16kg for fuel
    10kg for other fluids
    10-15 for panniers
    3 for centre stand
    3 for bash plate

    A couple of rough guesses there but that's 254. so not out of the realms of possibility.
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  12. LivingdeadCamo

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    Super Tenere is 260kgs wet....
  13. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Yeah, Yamaha did themselves no favours when they listed the S10s weight, getting it almost right, when everyone else just played with the other's brochure. I've seen numbers, just haven't got the googlefu right now to find them, but all the heavyweights are within 10 kgs or so wet ready to ride IIRC.
  14. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    Kinda makes it a bit pointless IMHO to compete in this space, they are all behemoths. Why bother? Come in with a big 'un under 200kg's and then maybe you've achieved something. BMW's HP2 would have sold container loads if they made them at the right price.
  15. Cruz

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    The Honda Crosstourer 1200 DCT is the heaviest of the standard model ADV bikes, not including big tank models.
  16. Blakduk

    Blakduk Just trying to get by.

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    Meh, they are all just potato bikes anyway. (Only good for digging ruts in soft ground to plant potatoes)
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  17. Flatland

    Flatland Dirt, please.

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  18. LOFTYBOB

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    That rear tire looks nice
  19. lurkin

    lurkin Been here awhile

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    I remember so well way back in 2004 the new 1200GS and BM shouting out that it was 30 kgs lighter than the previous model ( 201 dry from memory),, sadly this is now the company that has somehow managed to add huge kgs to their new about to be released twins and their boxers grow in weight each year, 259 fucking kgs for a fueled up 1200 GSA :beccaYou’d think 13 years after buying my HP2 I would be able to buy a lighter twin ,,,,, hence this 60 ( err plus ) bloke will be going single next.

    Btw , just for comparison purposes my old bike with all the extras and 20l of fuel comes in at 212 kgs ,,,, still a BIG motorcycle :hmmmmm
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  20. david61

    david61 Been here awhile

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    If you can't pick it up by yourself [ full of fuel and loaded ] it's too heavy.

    That's how I now define adventure bike.