Large CSM Hack, Small Schnauzer

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by davebig, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. Sidewise

    Sidewise Been here awhile

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    I run 175/65/14 front and back 195/45/15 sidecar. Air pressure 26psi front, 28 rear and 24 sidecar.
  2. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Thanks ! allot of folks run the sidecar tire harder trying to encourage more rotation left when closing the throttle.

    I really like this thing but I have a love/ hate affair with the K ,she's a willing worker but long in the tooth I really screwed up when I didn't get that other ST1100 /EZS that was on hpsidecars.
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  3. Sidewise

    Sidewise Been here awhile

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    I can understand that but 99% of my sidecar riding is with an adult passenger and somewhat weighty trunk contents. So, there is no trouble inducing left rotation even with the fat sidecar tire and lower inflation pressure.
  4. We're Here

    We're Here Been here awhile

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  5. twintwin

    twintwin Been here awhile

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    I saw this chair last spring when I visited Dave Engbers at EZS NL. It is called the Munro, designed and manufactured by EZS. It was a black one, very slick shape, roomy, 2 seats, large trunk, nice all around from all angles, and in my opinion one of the best looking chair available today.
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  6. High Octane

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    I'm running the same tire on all three corners at 34 psi per Bills recommendation, hot they climb 2 degrees F. I worked my way down to 24 psi while I was troubleshooting some handeling problems, which were beyond a tire pressure fix. This thing is a gas guzzler so I figure more air less rolling resistance, I don't have much hope of breaking 30 mpg.
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  7. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    The Bills Hmmmm ! The other one told me he only runs 18-20 in his, I liked mine allot more with 26 in the pusher and 22 in the sidecar and steer tire they would go up 2 pounds when warm.
    To me Bills answers where always the most conservative certainly providing protection if the owner screwed up ! 12 degrees of camber, run lead ballast ! I understand that but why buy a Porsche if you plan on observing the speed limit ?
    I mean we're a little beyond transportation device here !

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  8. High Octane

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    Bill said he used to run 24 but now recommends 34 for my rig. I think there is a lot of room depending on what an individual is looking for. I'm really looking to get easy steering with straight tracking. I think I'm there now but she's apart again!
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  9. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Oh Luke I almost forgot I got it accurately weighed at a little farm coop with a just certified Fairbanks Morse scale, 860 # with Justin aboard and all the gear jack,tools, ballast battery all the regular junk.
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  10. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    I thought the harder tires had me bouncing off little imperfections but when I got it it was way under sprung Bill Bs recommendation for a front spring weight really helped tracking, before your done you'll be wanting tires with higher UTQG ratings and be rotating in an effort to get some tire life.
    But I've said all that before and I still wish I had kept mine as it was pretty well sorted !
  11. FR700

    FR700 Heckler ™©®

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  12. kjo1

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    Hi Dave -- I was away at the 40th anniversary for the 100RS in PA and just home -- catching up on ADV...

    I have 165-70-14 front and rear 165-65-14 on the sidecar; since my question about tire pressures when you all were discussing HP rigs I have been lowering the psi; riding; checking hot psi which has been going up the 10% you suggested. I settled in at 28psi front and rear and 26 in the sidecar tire.
  13. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Apparently you did well that's what I ran yesterday and I think that's where I'll leave. Do you have ABS on your K rig, and is it EZS or EML ? thanks
  14. kjo1

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    No ABS and EZS...I'd like to come north one of these days or if you come to a rally nearer Indianapolis let me know -- would like to shoot the shi* and hear some more thoughts on sidecars...
  15. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    I believe the sidecar rally in in Indiana next year, hopefully I will get there.

    I'm a complete fraud ! :-) All I am is a guy with a medium amount of mechanical talent who's not afraid to try and change things and I'm really curious. I've worked with a really good mechanic and a pretty fair metal worker. Claude is a guy who can do allot with nothing and has a great ability to visualize what he's trying to create (those guys are few and far between) FR700 would be a standout metal worker whatever he's up too, but in Australia they place huge importance on self sufficiency.
    Strongbad knows a little bit about everything and allot about desert racing.
    I actually wish I had their talents.

    If you don't have any stuff( abs) in the way you can actually run a bigger tire in the rear and get a little higher gearing as the K's seem geared just a little low
    https://tiresize.com/calculator/ I'm wanting to try a 185/70

    All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it. H. L. Mencken
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  16. FR700

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  17. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Sod Off !!!!
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  18. kjo1

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    I like the idea about a bit larger rear tire -- when running in 5th I'm always thinking there should be a 6th...
  19. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Well my buddy Coopdway said he knew where the Vincent club was having their yearly get together so off we went Sat morning, I forgot my wallet so Coop stood me breakfast. Then we managed to find those unreliable old motorcycles.
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    This one backfired while they where trying to get her lit Justin didn't care for any of that.
    Where else would you find a man in a MN Jacket, trying to start an English motorcycle that appeared to be older than he was on an Indian reservation ! You can't make this stuff up !
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    I shouldn't need to remind you Mericans but we built motorcycles tooo :jack
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    This guy rides this everywhere and has put over 30k miles on it since he finished it.
    What do I find inspecting the K-bike an Aussie Vincent guy from NSW he probably built the engine in the Norvin that Luke was working on awhile back , seemed to be involved in prototyping replacement Vincent engine parts. Drove a K sidecar rig as a daily driver !
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  20. High Octane

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    I no see um.
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