Looking for travel companion answers?

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by Elad, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. easybiker2u

    easybiker2u Adventurer

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    If I find someone who is compatible it would be nice, but I can do it alone. I have many times before.
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  2. Elad

    Elad What oil is best in my motorbike?

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    Those people who would go crazy are the ones who would be inclined to pay someone's way to keep them company. Sometimes you just don't know someone who can match your schedule for time off. I will say my weakness is planning a trip, I plan my packing list and rehearsals completed however my stops and route are not planned unless my dogs are going then it changes a little.
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  3. Copracer288

    Copracer288 How hard can it be?

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    I have a buddy that I have done many trips with. Most of them "on road Harley" trips but we've done a couple dual sport trips. We get along great on the road. We are both easy going and enjoy the same pace. We have the same frame of mind as well. We like to RIDE. A few pics and sightseeing here and there but we love to ride. On our last DS trip to Michigan (for the MCCCT) a couple years ago things went south fast. It was our first camping-off-the-bike trip and the first time either of us were on sand. Needless to say that with our heavy overloaded bikes and inexperience with sand, the learning curve was pretty steep! My buddy fell a lot in the first couple hours. He busted his bike up a bit and bruised his ribs. By the time we stopped in the afternoon for a late lunch he was done. We trailered our bikes to Michigan from PA for the trip and he decided to ride his bike (650 GS) all the way home. My oldest son came along on that trip so the two of us finished the week.

    My buddy rode his bike home and promptly sold it. He hasn't admitted to giving up on dual sport or "adventure" riding. He says he's "looking" for a smaller, lighter bike but honestly, since he hasn't "found" one in the last two years, he isn't really serious. My son was pretty much only good for that trip. He had just gotten out of the Army and had plenty of "free" time. Now he is starting his career and just doesn't have the time to take off.

    This leaves me with my dilemma. Sure I could ride solo and for day trips or overnighters that's fine but for long trips far from home it's nice to have someone to ride with. It's just nice to know someone there has your back if you breakdown or get hurt or need some input on working through a problem. It's also nice just to share the experience with someone. You can tell people about it and show them pictures but they can't really understand unless they were there.

    I have considered posting on here looking for riding partners but I honestly don't know how I feel about committing to a trip with someone I don't really know. Maybe I will or maybe I'll just stay solo. Either way, I'm riding.

    This thread has had some good insight and ideas. Thanks OP!
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  4. ALinUTAH

    ALinUTAH Been here awhile

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    I've ridden with adv strangers several times and never had a big problem. These have been trips from a couple days to a couple weeks. The biggest incompatibility has been pace, I tend to dilly-dally while most people seem to be in a big hurry. But it's never resulted in a falling-out on the trip. On my trip to Canada and Alaska, I went with an adv inmate who I had never met. We talked by email, seemed we would get along fine, both were outdoorsy camping types, wanted to ride lots of gravel, only real scheduled stop was D2D. After that I was headed into AK and he would head home. I made it clear up front that I wasn't afraid to do this solo, and if for any reason it didn't work out he could go his own way without hurting my feelings. Between here and there we wandered around western Canada backroads without a real plan and camped wherever we ended up, grabbed a room when we needed one. It was fun. At one point my bike broke down and we got stuck in a motel for 3 nights waiting for a stator. He could have gone on but he waited with me. But along the way it was clear he liked a much faster pace than I did. Normally I think he would cover the ground in a day that I would do in three. So after a week or so we started riding alone and met up later, sometimes the next day. Eventually after making it to D2D we parted ways. It worked out.

    I have a group of riders that I meet most summers. We originally got together about ten years ago on a bike-specific forum, decided to get together, and have done so nearly every summer since. There are usually a couple dozen of us from all over the country with different backgrounds and riding styles. Because we meet in different places and most of us have to ride at least a couple days just to get there, they are not strangers to seat time. Most of the time we meet somewhere, getting there solo or in small groups, and stay for several days, during which small groups do different things each day. Some sit around the campfire, some go add to their harley dealership t-shirt collection, others do day rides for pie and coffee. One year we did a lap of Colorado, broke up into smaller groups and met up every night at a predetermined place. We've become friends and it's something we all look forward to every year. I rode for ten days with a few of them once. Maybe it wasn't exactly how I would have done the ride, more on a tight schedule than I usually do, but it was their ride so I did it their way and enjoyed the company. I recognize that I am probably on the edge of the spectrum when I just wander with no plan and lay my head in the dirt wherever I end up. Not everybody travels like that, and needs a little more structure and an actual bed with a roof over it LOL.

    You need to be a little bit flexible to make it work.
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  5. lifetravelled

    lifetravelled Been here awhile

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    The wife I just returned from a 3 day ride with another couple who are close friends but we had not ridden together, we had a great time but i could see that it wouldn't work for anything much lounger.

    I think the biggest thing is around pace, a quick stop for us is a quick stop but it would take them twice as long as us to do everything and that puts a strain on the relationship. Maybe I'm just impatient...

    I think the other thing that is important is that each rider needs to honest with what they want to do and what they looking for, that way everyone gets what they want out of the trip.
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  6. nunzo

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    Love this thread as I am torn by riding companions and their quirks... My road riding buddy likes to strafe the backroads, pass on double yellow and not get stuck behind anyone or anything. That quick pace is OK sometimes, but for 3-4 days straight, it is too much for me and no longer fun due to the intensity. I like to stop and take photos when I want, stop and eat when I am hungry and chill with a great vista and relax. His desires to get as many miles as possible in a day differ from my approach. We have split while on the road for that reason, and with no hard feelings ever. He get's his ride in and I do the same. I am thinking about the northern section of the COBDR this Spring (late May?). Hard to find someone who wants do a 3-4 day camping trip with a stranger (i get it.) Therefore I make sure I am a self sufficient, relatively competent off road rider and can spin a wrench or change a tire when needed. For the record.... Everyone that I have ever dealt with from the ADVRider community have been solid folks.
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  7. dcwilcox

    dcwilcox Been here awhile

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    Great thread! Thus far, I've pretty much planned my trips as 'solo' (i.e. self supported) and some I've done alone and some I've joined organized rides. I'm always looking for riders who want to join me for a day or a week when I'm out and have found a little of both. Finding the perfect riding partner isn't easy; even if personalities and riding styles are a good fit . . . there are still commitments and schedules to work around.
    3 trips penciled in for 2018. Late May: NM and CO mostly Shadow of the Rockies ending in Denver. July: CDR from Steamboat Springs to Border (then Boise). Sept/Oct: NVBDR North to South (to Vegas). More info in my RR (see sig).
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  8. Elad

    Elad What oil is best in my motorbike?

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    We do share one thing in common the same ls2 helmet
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  9. vfrmike

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    Fish, family, and friends all begin to smell after 3 days.
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  10. vfrmike

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    Being a little more serious, I would love to see a section for riders that have no time or family constraints on their riding. This would work for me as I hate schedules and hard and fast destinations. My best overseas trips have always gone like this: rent car at airport, decide if I'm going N,S,E, or W, take the nearest exit and head out, find a place that seems interesting and stay at a b&b and listen to where my hosts advise going. Head that way and repeat. I would love to have a riding companion that was likeminded; however, most have tight schedules so solo seems the way to go. I'm heading out on my VFR as soon as it warms up a little to do some USA riding. I'll follow warm temps until it warms up north and head toward NE US and Quebec. I may be out several weeks or several months, i may post my next days ride if I know where I'm going and invite anyone that would like to meet up for lunch or dinner or ride awhile together. I love to light camp and have a National Park/forest pass for 1/2 price camping. I would also like to use tent space here on the forum and take suggestions from hosts. So for the type of traveling I do it would be hard to find a willing partner, unless I throw a hot chick on the back--lol hot chicks at my age!
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  11. Elad

    Elad What oil is best in my motorbike?

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    All this riding reading makes me wish it wasn't 19 degrees outside. I really enjoy the trials events on the africa twin, I have a semi local place that made me a custom sprocket for a little lower gearing off road. Enjoy the gratuitous action shots Screenshot_20170527-203647.png

    Stolen picture of myself from deals gap on Karoo 3's packed for camping. Who says 21's don't handle curves.

    Trans Florida rally is coming in early march if anyone in intrested in going it's free and it's a BLAST!!
    looking at a scooter cannonball run this summer as well
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  12. boatpuller

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    Don't delay your next trip with a compatible riding buddy.

    I had one slow paced ride from MT to AK on a touring bike with my wife, where we met very enjoyable couple who was likewise, and we ended up riding frequently with as they were going the same pace. Ends up we're both IBA and competitive rally riders, but could also relax and ride a stop-and-smell-the-flowers type of ride when logging miles was not important. Six months later in their home state while on a Christmas trip, we stayed in their home and learned he and I both wanted to do the IBA Ultimate Coast to Coast ride, Key West to Dead Horse. Our wives liked us having a riding buddy for the Haul road. We each bought Super Tenere's for the trip, and logged lots of emails planning our route and schedule.

    He ended up having a medical issue, and passed away. I keep looking at the Tenere in my garage for the AK trip we didn't take, next to the Harley touring bike which did go to AK with him, and think about how rich the trip would have been with him than it will be by myself when I finally get to it. RIP buddy. I'm glad we got to do what we did. Wish we'd done more.

    Bill, I repeat, don't delay your next trip with Carl.
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  13. wndsrfr48

    wndsrfr48 Been here awhile

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    When you head out out of Jax, let me know. I'll ride along for the day - or two, until the smell gets too bad.
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  14. Izzo

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  15. RatAssassin

    RatAssassin Been here awhile

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    Being the type of guy who is into things that 95%+ of the population does not do has always created challenges for me.

    I have always had problems getting people to go climbing, paddling, backpacking or riding with. A lot of the problem was due to timing of the events or the fact that my friends would all say the same thing...."I used to do that, loved every minute of it.....good times!" but could never answer my rebuttal, "Then why did you stop?"
    It seems that life catches up with everyone and pretty soon they are all chained down with mortgages, kids, car payments, etc. Now that I have more free time being semi retired early.....my friends are still punching that clock everyday and working those mandatory OT Saturdays. It really limits social time.

    I've got one friend who has been with me on 28 solid years of wilderness adventure trips. We would leave them open to everyone and had the extra gear to lend out. Only once were we joined and the guy had a blast. But his job took him 3 states away. People like the idea of what we do....want to hear about it, but won't do it due to different things.
    I see riding as the same thing. I come from an area where there wasn't a whole lot of $ for us local boys. I rode alone. Being now in a die hard HD area, I still ride alone. I would rather hit the scenic NF and SF roads than cruise on uninspiring roads to the sound of straight pipes just to see the next bar down the road.

    I have been out on many "forum trips" and done trips with total but like-minded strangers and it's always been a pleasant experience. I discovered this when I moved primary residences. I stopped counting at 100 people. We've had some great trips all over the US and for varying lengths of time. I still go out with quite a few still into it.
    So I have figured out that the only way to meet like minded people into the same things as you are is to hit the forums. The average guy in America is a spectator, not a "let's do it!" type. he would rather crack a beer and watch sports for 6 straight hours than hike 2 miles or change the oil in an ADV bike. To fulfill your passions, you have to first find the passion. The internet has made that possible. I'm very thankful for it and the opportunity it has given me to not "solo" everything, all the time.
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  16. Elad

    Elad What oil is best in my motorbike?

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    Absolutely

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  17. vfrmike

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    Roger that, RatAssassin
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  18. 55Chevy

    55Chevy Translab Solo Trip Jul 16

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    Hey Boatpuller, Planning a run to Alaska in July as I have read the same thing many times, plan the ride and retirement and never get there.
    I planning on meeting another inmate in Mich and headed up from there. Still working on details, but as other have pointed out, compatability is key. I'm thinking to get up there, pound the miles with reasonable breaks and buy some time for the middle of the ride, but also wanting to utilize Tent Space accommodations where possible and other known camping spots with showers when possible or be it a dip in a creek, a campsite or someones garden hose. That's the compatibility challenge, may or may not work for both parties as well as splitting a motel for the rainy nights.
    My Translab ride started out with four riders, two realized early on what it entailed and bailed, The other was looking for a bike but wasn't buying one so had my doubts but I continued my research and trip planning, he didn't bail until a few days prior. The scheduled morning I mounted up and rode, no one to wait for, no one waiting on me, no expectations except to catch scheduled ferries, awesome trip.
    Don't plan fore ever and don't wait for the right time, met good people along the way and each had their own riding style and agenda, maybe it will work, maybe not. Sometimes twos company and three becomes a crowd.
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  19. vfrmike

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    My father told me early on "when you put 3 people together 1 of them is going to be an asshole and that 1 asshole may be the one staring back at you in the mirror." I have found this to be true more times than not. I try not to be "that guy", but not always successfully. Point is, ride alone or look for folks that have some self-awareness and discuss the problems before they happen having a plan how to cope--usually a cooling off day (riding alone and meeting up later) will cure most ills if discussed.
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  20. 55Chevy

    55Chevy Translab Solo Trip Jul 16

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    LMAO on that one, great advice. I think one of the hardest things is riding style, TSD, time, speed and distance. What time to start, how fast and far to go before stopping for the day. We all have our comfort level, risk tolerance and endurance level that can change as the miles or days pile up.
    The idea of gear sharing is great to lighten the load until you part ways for what ever reason, incompatability, a breakdown or worse yet an illness or crash in which one rider can no longer continue. As one rider stated "I pack the same regardless of the ride, the amount of food and water being the variable.
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