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Discussion in 'Electric Motorcycles' started by dogsslober, Jan 2, 2018.
Gorgeous bike, we need reviews on this Bad Boy!
Here's what such ebikes looked like in 1999 or so:
This is very close to what I think I want in a freeride type machine. The more I learn about ebikes and e motos makes me think this is a pretty good value. power*weight*range/$
I want trials bike weight with the ability to go over hare scramble terrain up to 40 mph with safe and stable suspension. I would also like 0-5 mph creeping through rock gardens, gully crossing bursts etc.
An electric trials bike would work fine for me but is twice the price and this might be 90% comparable for my needs.
The Sur Ron Light Bee has good specs for an EB/EM at around $3200-3400. I am tempted to get one for my on/off road adventures.
Screw the Sur-ron! I want one of these Neematic!!!
Some good design ideas in that Neematic. Put on footpegs, get rid of the pedals and their drive components, use that weight saving for stronger long travel suspension, and you'd have something. Otherwise it's just an interesting bicycle.
A 20 hp bicycle.
The value isn't there...
I got one from Luna Cycles a few weeks ago - more as a toy and last ditch effort to get my now 13 year old son interested in riding (my ex convinced my son years ago that all motorcycles are bad). I had a OSET and a CRF 50 he ignored. Anyway...
The Sur-Ron Light Bee is interesting in that it falls neatly between a bicycle and a small motorcycle. They cost $3500. I use it to ride around the neighborhood, but at 6'3" and 250 lb, the Sur-Ron would definitely be better for someone smaller and lighter. I can ride around the yard or down the deck stairs with ease, and have seen 44 MPH indicated on a long flat stretch of road. My 5'8" girlfriend got on it and it fit her well. Being electric, the power is hard to compare to a gas engine, but I would say is feels more like CRF 80 power. The suspension is more in line with a down-hill mountain bike - both front and rear have rebound and compression adjustment. The light is not really adequate for real night riding (nor was my Husky) and the rear light is just a solid red LED. I added two LED spots at the front if I decide to trail ride along the river at night. Overall, the quality looks to be pretty good... saying that for China made it would appear to be at the upper end. Luna has a youtube video out there where they take one apart and give it a positive rating. The big topic could be can it be ridden legally... pedals can be installed (designed for it) but looks awkward at best. In its current state I would classify it more like a electric scooter and part electric bike. Either way, I fall into it's easier to beg forgiveness that ask permission rider, so I'll enjoy it for what is - an electric toy. For those that live near public trails, this would be a nice and quiet option, and who knows what the future will hold - or what California will mandate.
Quick note that Luna is working on an control unit upgrade that will increase power 50-75%. They are testing it per a YouTube video. Also, the rims are motorcycle parts as are the spokes. The brakes are hydraulic MTB units, but get the job done. It also has a loud horn. I added a front fender. The battery pack is significant and I would guess would last an hour to four hours dependent on how hard it is pushed.
Thanks for the info.
The difficulty with these new electric bikes is having a good place to ride them. Around here all the OHV trails are deep sand. While there is plenty of public land "motorized vehicles" are prohibited just about everywhere.
I see bikes like this and want one, but don't think it would get much use around here.
There is a company that goes by Stealth Bikes that makes a more bike like device that has even more kick than the Sur-Ron Light Bee. Of course, the caveat is that the Stealth bikes are almost three times as expensive. A guy in the UK has many informative videos out in YouTube. In truth, hard hitting ebikes (45 - 65 MPH capability) are currently at the forefront of the technology, and therefore can become problematic due to the amount of energy the controllers are handling. I'm no ebike expert, but I am somewhat educated on the subject. As an aside, my interest goes back the the Badsey EMX days of the late 90's - it was a scooter that would do 25 MPH.
Bicycle brakes? Bicycle tires? Bicycle rims?
Nice review, thanks. At only $3500, these could sell very well. How did they bring down the price this low?
Does the mid-drive motor get warm, or hot under peak use?
How comfy as a street moto?
Are tires tubeless?
Nice, I raced against/on sevral Badsey's circa 1998(?) vs Currie Flyer's and Zappy's, indoors, on pylon zig zags. The Badsey's tire profiles were not rounded and were dangerous on turns.
Well, at night, no one can tell what you're riding, especially if it is noiseless.
Are there mountain bikers at night in your local trails? Park paths?
What seems to be missing with the Sur-ron imo is anti-theft electronics like all Chinese scooters had since 2006.
Can you leave a Sur-Ron outside a 7-11 at night while you buy bread?
Sexy ebikes get stolen fast -- in my experience.
I think they have tubes.
Street legal version reportedly coming in June? Yes please!
This is what Electron Cycles wrote about Light Bee Homologation
Heck yeah, now you've got my attention! Like others have mentioned, this is a super cool bike, but legal riding options, at least here on the east coast, are basically non-existant.
If I get a Sur-Ron, I will ride mostly off road, I don't think paying DMV registration & insurance premiums would add to the fun factor.
I have been following this bike for a couple days. I would love this as a ride around NOLA. I need it to be street legal. My states OMV says that this would be a motor-driven cycle and still mandates registration. With it's non-standard VIN (heard it has a serial number) I am not sure how they would react. I have heard it comes with a certificate of origin and that is it. I want to make sure I can get this thing road legal before dropping the cash.