Motoz Tractionator GPS, losing my virginity

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  1. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    Well there's not a lot of feedback on these so I decided I'd be a Guinea Pig.

    As I've only just fitted them I'll stick to mostly facts for now, and opinion can come over next month or so. On the F8 I've tried Golden Tyre GT201, EO7, TKC 80 and now these. So I'll have a decent base to compare to.

    The main riding I have done and will do on the F8 in the foreseeable future is country slab, twisty slab, a bit of highway, nice dirt roads, Forrest Rds, and just the odd bit of Forrest track, and it is QLD so not real wet. So unfortunately if your hoping to find out more than that you'll have to buy your own and let us know how they go.

    Motoz Tractionator GPS 150 70 17 rear, 90 90 21 front.
    Rear installed in the 50/50 direction not the offroad direction, interesting design on these with that difference. They feel like a pretty heavy tyre with a stiff Caracas, tread depth is 7-8mm front and 12-13mm rear all measured on the centre block tread. All sizes appear to be tubeless but the F8 has tubes so installed with tubes. I've installed them with 34psi front and 36 rear at this stage.

    Here's the guff http://motoz.com.au/product/tractionator-gps/

    So a hundy KM scrub in ride through the burbs and 60 and 80 kph rural hilly slab twisties.

    The early good.
    Right from leaving the driveway they felt solid and straight, didn't really do anything surprising (read the early bad section) and just felt like a nice solid tyre. Taking it pretty easy just doing the speed limits out of the burbs and into the rural they just tracked and cornered like I'd expect, no surprises. Hooked in nice, didn't drift, when I hooked harder they just hooked with me, remember this is all just at or below speed limit on a scrub in ride. Last 25km of rural my confidence was up and pushed a little harder, once again did it well, and to tell you the truth they were confidence inspiring to push them harder, but not yet. I'm a bit of a scardy cat really and always just go bit by bit whenever I fit a new to me tyre.

    The early bad
    As I left the driveway and up the street I felt a light vibe come up through the bars from the front just for an instant, and a slight panic of the 8 bolts it takes to remove/install the front wheel ran through my head for an instant, but I knew I'd checked all 8 of them 3 times so no need to fear that. Then first slowing corner quick vibe again as I slowed and then same as accelerated. Down the street I worked out it was exactly as I went up through or down through 40-45kph, no more and no less. It's a Nobby like vvvrrrrr, and no not balance as in once a rotation it's almost like a pretty good Nobby feels as you break to a slow at the lights, strange really as the front certainly isn't very Nobby. Anyway after the 100 KM it was much better so I'd say after its scrubbed in wont feel it.

    So not claiming I've found the holy grail yet, but at least I didn't arrive home and say get this fucking thing off here like I did the first time I road with a D606 on a front.......

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  2. Cruz

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    You should have fitted Pilot Road 4s for that riding, would have been more fun for you than these.
    Have you stored the TKC80s away now?
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  3. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    Those road 4's would go good on your City Bike :D

    The TKC's are wrapped in cotton wool until the potential March vic high country ride. :ricky

    However if the GPS front doesn't work out I won't hesitate to go back to the TKC
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  4. vstromrcflyer

    vstromrcflyer Been here awhile

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    Good timing,

    I'll be in the market for a similar front for the Vstrom within the next month or two. I currently have a Shinko E-804 on the front, has been good for similar riding you mentioned, but the mileage life is pretty crap seeing I use my bike 50% commuting to work and back. I have a Mitas E-07 on the back and it's working well!

    So, I'm a bit unsure which way to go? Either another E-07 to match the rear, or stick to a slightly more aggressive tyre for the front? I'll have a look at the Tractionator as it's tubeless and that works on the Wee.

    As you know, I have found the limits of the Vstrom once or twice, LOL!

    Cheers,
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    vstromrcflyer Been here awhile

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    Oh forgot, where did you buy the Tractionator from?

    Just looked over the net, doesn't look promising to get one to fit the Vstrom? The front size is 110/80 R19.
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    Thanks for posting. I have one ready to go on the back of the Tiger.

    I have been using Mitas E09/07 &TKC80 rears with Pirelli Scorpion Rally front.
    It will be interesting to see if the GPS gives bang for buck.
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  8. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    I did another early 100km this morning, they certainly are the best dry road handling tyre I've had on since the stock Pirelli Scorpian Trails, so that's a good start, and I wasn't disappointed in the short bit of dirt Rd i did, here's to exploring them a bit more...........
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    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    Wait for tyres for bikes to come back in the new year Mike.

    Also if you like the shinko I wouldn't be scared to give the TKC 80 a run, I'd be surprised if you don't find it better, and the wear rate on rears is what really gives them the higher cost per KM reputation.
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    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    I had noticed that, but figured the way the Tiger power comes on it'll take for fucking ever to wear out your other one and we'll never find out how the GPS goes, so I jumped in :ksteve

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    Happy New Year to you too!

    I went through three rears in 2016. I left an 80% worn E07 in Perth, 80% worn E09 in Alice Springs and wore out the TKC80 with a second trip to the Flinders.

    The TKC80 was expensive $320, but no choice in 17inch diameter in Alice.

    You are right about the power delivery being sedate. The TC works really well in all conditions so I have to turn it off for big power slides.
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    Can I please ride with you over Mt Mee the first day it rains?
    I will happily follow you and video it for you. ;)
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    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    That would be awsome
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    The GPS rears don't like the shiny bits of bitumen in the wet but in all other conditions there great.
    I had the opportunity to run a pair of the Adventure and GPS's back to back, did 675 K's of mixed riding on the Adventures, come home and pulled them off.
    I gave the rear away and the front is sitting unused for anybody who wants it.
    IMHO, unless you really need a knobby, I wouldn't buy anything else.
    Given mine some real abuse recently, no punctures, no dented rims, I run 34/36 psi, they give predictable grip off road with good on road manners.
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    Will do, the Mitas E-07 on the rear is working well, maybe the "lack" of brute power of the Vstrom is perfect for this tyre? LOL!

    Cheers,
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    You heading to Vic in March too mate?
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    Thanks for the write-up :thumb

    I'm wondering how the front GPS would cope in some dusty conditions?

    Might go to Lake Gairdner Speed Trials again - my beloved MT90's dealt with it pretty well last time (was a fresh tyre).....but there is always the worry that an extended dusty/sandy section is gonna be a handful on the big loaded bikes

    Any input welcome :thumbup
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  18. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    Well it's on my radar, get back to work and see what's going on then book a couple of days leave, ride down the weekend before and work out of Melb office then take off for the ride from there, that's a draft maybe anyway.

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    If you like MT 90's, you will like the GPS. MT 90 rear is better on the road. However the front GPS is equivalent to the MT 90 on the road and much better off road. Plus there 4 ply with a rim saver bead.

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  20. badmanners

    badmanners Umm, yeah, no.

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    I had a Vstrom for 9 years and the TKC80 was the most confidence inspiring front tyre in the dirt I tried. All up around 12000 km's out of it mostly on the seal ( a problem when you live in Sydney, it's a long way to where you want to ride) and was fine in the wet as well. Feels like a tractor tyre when it's mostly worn out. Mitas E-10 was good as well but about 2/3 rds the life of the TKC.

    Cheers, badmanners.
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