New Garmin inReach 2017.

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by gjn201, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. krussell

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    gpscity shows both models in stock.
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  2. Tewster2

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    I'll get one to replace my SPOT but will only get the base model. The screen is too small for my old eyes to use as a GPS anyway. And here's a thought...when you send out a preset message it also sends out your location. So...if you don't want or need auto tracking and just want friends and family to see where you are, just get the smallest plan....it includes unlimited preset messages. Make a preset that says "Here's where I am"...Nice.
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    Amazon has them in stock...with Prime it's to you in 2 days.
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  4. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    I'll probably order the Explorer+ from REI for the 10% rebate. REI does not sell the powered mount. Is that powered mount all I need to attach it to my motorcycle handlebars or do I need the bicycle mount as well (i.e. bicycle mount attached to handlebars, powered mount attached to bicycle mount, and Explorer+ in the mount)?

    edit: also, are there Mexico maps I can purchase that will show up in the Explorer+?
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  5. markinthailand

    markinthailand Been here awhile

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    1. I have the Delorme InReach, but assuming the tech is about the same, no need for a powered mount. It will last for 2+ days just on the battery. Save the power / mounting for the regular GPS or smart phone (I use my iPhone as a large screen GPS and keep power to it).

    2. DON'T mount the tracker (or any emergency beacon) to your motorcycle or bike. It should be on your person. That way if there is an accident and you are thrown from your motorcycle you can still trigger the SOS. I don't have the link handy, but there is a post on here about a guy who wrecked in Baja and was thrown from his bike. Two broken legs, and if he didn't have the InReach on his person he would probably not have made it.

    3. I don't know if it has changed, but the maps on the Garmin app for the smart phones are world wide. So I would guess that the same is true for the new model -- so the maps should be built in.

    Post up a review once you've used it for awhile!
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  6. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    If I'm on a ride for a week like for the Tour of Idaho, I need to recharge it on the bike especially if I'm camping.

    I'm willing to take that risk so I can replace 2 units (inReach and Garmin 478) with one smaller unit. I need it on the handlebars to be able to follow tracks. On rides where I don't need the tracks, I'll have it on the shoulder strap of my hydration pack. My choice

    I believe the compatible maps are topo maps only, not the Garmin app for smart phones.
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  7. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    You might want to check out what the unit can add can't do as far as navigation before replacing those two units
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  8. krussell

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    I called Garmin and asked some questions about tracks. Wanted to confirm some things. Based on that conversation, I went to my inreach page and uploaded a GPX track from a ride last weekend. It was a good part of the day, so more than 500 pts. There was a popup that said it would be scaled to 500. Then I took a look a the track on the web. I'm not really impressed. Not sure how they do the scaling, but there were definitely a few places where it would not be clear which way to go without making some assumptions. I can think of a bunch of places where there are a lot of intersections that a closely spaced that would not work.

    I also built a route on the web. It's purely point to point, so you've got to do the routing, and drop a point wherever you think you need to.

    She did say the track log was at 1 sec intervals and could be uploaded to the web, then exported. She also mentioned I could do that via bluetooth as well, but I'd need a device to try it. If you've got a current model, you can import some stuff to see if it will work for you.

    I'm not running out to buy one until my SE dies. If you've got a current model, you can play with the import / export on the web.
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  9. krussell

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    Here's a screenshot of the track as rendered by GPS visualizer, followed by the garmin inreach site screen shot. When I'm following a track, I zoom in on the GPS quite a bit, and it's obvious where every turn is. Looking at this, and thinking about the display you'll have on the inreach, I'd call it unusable. Or I'm really missing something.

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  10. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    I know it won't be able to do routes and I'm okay with that. When I'll be using this unit alone, I just need to see the purple line (or whatever color it happens to be) of the track amidst the contour lines for my navigation. I had you set up a Casio Commander android phone for me and used it pretty much how I anticipate using this unit for navigating tracks. For instance, I used the phone the first time I rode the Window Rock trail in Baja but really just checked when I got to intersections to make sure I went the way I intended. I have the original inReach with no screen and I have that paired with my regular smart phone. I sometimes use that to double check my locations and the Delorme maps in my phone have details my Garmin or OSM maps do not. I haven't ever tried viewing or uploading tracks on/to my inReach page and looking at those on my phone or computer. I probably should
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    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    Hmmm, that would definitely require some work before it was usable. You'd definitely be doing some riding around trying to figure out which way to go.
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  12. krussell

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    It's a sample of one. I use a BMW Nav 5, so that's where the track came from. Maybe it's something about the way the track get's recorded on that device. FWIW, it seems to work just like my montana and zumo did, so I doubt that's it. Hopefully some others will give it a go.
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  13. JMartin

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    One vendor on eBay is showing a ship date of April 13-26.
    And wow on the lack of detail on that second screen shot. I'm used to 10,000 points on the Montana and frequently have sections with so much detail where I have to filter the points just to get under 10k. At 500 points it doesn't really serve as a back up to the Montana but only as an emergency communications device.
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  14. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    that's cool, i think krussel's post just before yours is highlighting the kind of issues I've been wondering about. i know devices are marketed as "record a bread crumb to find your way back to camp", and sure enough you will if you're using very easily seen roads.... but that screenshot makes me wonder if it's any use at all as a navigation aid. 500 pts would barely get me to a trail head, let alone down double track, and completely unusable for single track.
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  15. krussell

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    While the GPX files you upload to the site are down converted to 500 pts, which stinks for following someone elses route etc, I don't know if the same limitation applies the the breadcrump back to camp. Allegedly, the track logs it keeps are 1 pt per sec. If they use that for the breadcrumb, it may not have the same limitations as the upload.
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  16. lddave

    lddave been there

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    Received email yesterday from Garmin letting me know the InReach was available for order . Garmin was going to charge me tax plus 7 to 10 day wait till or shipped . Went to gps city online today showed they had them in stock no tax and free shipping. Ordered one now waiting delivery.


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    I heard REI has them with a 10% rebate also.
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  18. Tewster2

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    I'll be ordering mine next week. I don't care at all about the built in GPS...all I want is the emergency function and two way texting. I have a Montana 600 that has been perfect for four years now. The inReach will ride in my pocket and I'll send out my location through preset messages when I feel like it :-)
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  19. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    Hmm. OK. 1/SEC is fine resolution. That's odd about reducing points in upload. Maybe it would be better to Bluetooth tracks to a phone first and upload to Dropbox/similar instead of the built in services?
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  20. Bobo

    Bobo Are we there yet?

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    I received the new Garmin InReach SE+ today. I can't do much with it because I need to transfer my subscription to this device and to do that you need to chat or speak with a representative. They are not available on the weekend. The new InReach SE+ is bigger that the InReach SE. It has more heft to it and it has a much higher quality feel. All the black surfaces have a rubberized feel.

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