New Garmin Monterra (not a typo!)

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by lmychajluk, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. ThomasD

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    There is no new firmware for the monterra, firmware 4.10 is last and not updated. But there is a new GPS Chipset Version going from type 5 v3.00 to v3.10. It adds support for new QZSS satellite serving Asia and Australia.
  2. Solaros1

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    I have an almost unused Monterra and after trying as hard as I can to like it I just haven't been able to develop a working relationship with the thing. I've had a lot of different GPS units starting with a Garmin GPS II, GPS III+ and a 2610. I've also tried a Magellan and my favorite a Lowrance Baja (which had no after sales support from Lowrance) and I just can't figure the Monterra out. It seems counter intuitive in use and the Android platform should have made it brilliant but Garmin has dropped the ball. I found out two weeks after I bought it that Garmin was discontinuing it - feel a bit betrayed that that one of their repeat customers would get sucker punched like that.

    I like the looks of the 276cx and it got good reviews from the instructors at Overland Expo but Garmin does not give me warm fuzzies right now. I really wish that Lowrance had developed the Baja more but now I'm looking at tablet based navigation for my Land Rover. If I got a reasonable offer for my Monterra with the mount, City Navigator installed I'd probably move on.
  3. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    ouch!

    you might want to check out the 276cx thread.... it's a year on and they're still bickering about and making excuses for, it's performance abilities.
  4. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I didn’t pay anything for it, but my Monterra sits in my bottom drawer. My Montana is far more useful.
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  5. Solaros1

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    And that's exactly why I'm about to give up on Garmin altogether. I've been looking at some rugged tablets and found some very intriguing used 10" military grade Windows based units that might work in a 4WD vehicle - way too big for a motorcycle but would look pretty good in a Defender. Now the question for the collective - is it a bad idea to try to run a windows based GPS system? I'd like to be able to run tracks and routes (specifically the TAT and BDR tracks).
  6. Emmbeedee

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    Not really on topic, is it?


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  7. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    hmm, windows based stuff is so foreign I wouldn't know where to begin. usually the only windows based stuff is just a support role for all the things the Garmin can't do (sharing tracks/maps/waypoints) or does so poorly (route planning/editing) that people would rather lug a windows laptop with them on trips.

    what you said you wanted from the Garmin unit is pretty trivial for other android devices, maybe Garmin will give their product a technology bump someday ?
  8. duibhceK

    duibhceK duibhce Kaelann

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    Sure, they'll do it right after they finish the technology update for the Garmin iQue.
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  9. Ken in Regina

    Ken in Regina Been here awhile

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    Any Android phone or tablet has a lot of GPS options, including fairly sophisticated routing. The problem with that is you probably need something ruggedized and designed specifically for outdoor use so the screen is visible.

    Laptop GPS World is a discussion forum that has been looking at Windows stuff for years. It has been primarily about laptops until recently because there were no Windows tablets or phones when it started.

    ...ken...
  10. Emmbeedee

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    Microsoft actually made (or badged) a usb gps way back when. I have one in my stuff drawer.




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  11. Bayner

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    And Street & Trips actually worked pretty well too...
  12. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    yup, rugged has been around a few years now. i've tried killing a bunch of them on my street, dualsport, and dirtbikes, but failed so far.

    here's a fairly tough test of a few phones apparently the new normal is smashing things on smartphone screens.



    the rugged windows tablets/laptops would probably be ideal for taking along and doing all the stuff the current monterra software isn't great at.

    thanks for the laptop gps world reference, it's always fun to see NEW software :-)
  13. Bayner

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    The biggest gripe I have with the Monterra over the years is it's hit and miss connectivity with basecamp and express (and other related software.) It's so random and it's infuriating when you're in a hurry. Having said that I really like it's map draw rate and the track management is pretty damn good as well, especially for multi-month type travel.
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  14. Ken in Regina

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    It was the best you could buy for complex routing, especially for salespeople, etc., who needed regular business routes for themselves or/and employees. There is still nothing that can touch it for that. The MS badged GPS receiver Emmbeedee mentions came with it. The receiver was mediocre but functional. Mine has long since gone to that great stuff drawer in the sky. :)

    ...ken...
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    I am odd -- but I actually prefer the Monterra over the Montana. My biggest gripe being the one quoted above. There are a number of other problems I have had over the years but have pretty much developed work arounds for them. I would willingly trade my Montana 610 for another Monterra.
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    Me too with the connectivity issue. I think with mine it is a problem in the unit reading my large capacity microSD card.

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  17. duibhceK

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    I actually hardly ever connect the Monterra to a PC. Route transfer goes via Dropbox or wifidirect/bluetooth if no internet is available. New maps are installed by taking the SD-card out and putting it in the card reader of the laptop.
    In fact the only time I ever hook up the Monterra to a PC is when an update becomes available, which is hardly ever, really.
  18. 2thdrinOR

    2thdrinOR Been here awhile

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    So, I'm going on a couple of big pavement only rides this upcoming summer and I think I'm going to purchase a copy of City Navigator from Garmin. My reasons are to have turn by turn navigation available when needed, and I have had hit and miss success with the OSM type maps in that regard. So, my question is this: is there any advantage to "Download" or "microSD card" map format when purchasing Garmin maps? I have several microSD cards that I can use to store maps, so I don't really need the physical card in my purchase.

    Also, do you have better performance with storing the maps on the internal storage vs. the microSD card?
  19. Emmbeedee

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    Does being a dentist in Or pay so badly that you need to steal maps?
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    I will humble myself before Thee, oh "god of judgement" (or Asshat, whichever you prefer) with but one excuse...My $680 Monterra was having problems reading microSD cards since I opened the brand new box, therefore I was reluctant to spend another $80 on a map that would likely be troublesome at best or useless at worst. An acquaintance offered a copy of his City Navigator to help diagnose my mapping problems. I have been a long time Garmin customer, owning three different new GPS devices and purchasing Garmin maps with each device. But it's always refreshing to have internet trolls to judge my morality and behavior....I would be lost without you! And thanks for your help on the topic!
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